Carmoney

I think Sweeney fits a profile......!

I agree completely for .45ACP. If you get a 627 in .357mag however, Hearthco moons with R-P brass is noticeably better. Yes, you're right--the mix-up thing only applies for .45. All other calibers can be finicky.

mixed-up moons.......mixed-up brass......iss all good, mybrutha.....

Yes, but I said that in reference to last year's Area 5 match......and that terrible moment when I found poor Cliff all broken and sobbing on the floor of your motel room...... Ok, you can't just throw out something like that and not spill all the gory details. What happened to "poor Cliff"? Inquiring minds want to know, not to mention those of us who just love to hear a good story. Search and ye shall find. (hint: try searching for "cretin")

I'd say that's the normal way of doing it!

BigDeer--No worries, your posts were most welcome! Keep 'em coming! Furthermore, I think you helped talked ol' Mr. Clean into switching back to Revolver for the "Big Show" this September in Barry! Great job!

Jim, one of these times we need to send somebody down to Columbia to pick up bullets. I agree their shipping terms are ridiculous.

Yes, but I said that in reference to last year's Area 5 match......and that terrible moment when I found poor Cliff all broken and sobbing on the floor of your motel room......

Did you see the stage where you have to start with "magazine in gun, chamber empty"? Wonder what that means for revolvers?

Stage diagrams are up on the Nationals website.

.....and stunningly handsome. Dick, you'd be making a decent bet on John B., the times I've shot with him he's shown not only plenty of skill and speed, but also great consistency, which is one of the most important keys to winning a larger match. On several occasions over the past year I've made a serious mistake on one stage that cost tons of match points, in several cases knocking myself into second place in matches I would have otherwise won. Avoiding mistakes and maintaining mental focus are so critical to success at the higher levels, and John's very good at both of those. I've never shot with Tom K. or Rich B., but I would enjoy the opportunity--plus, you're a damn strong wheelgunner in your own right, Six Shot! Maybe next year I'll make a point to travel west for a big match or two....

uhhhhhhhhhh.....good theory but looks to me like Cabelas wants $88/K for 'em. few cents? am I missing something?

Just ordered a bunch. With the pricing pressure on metals and fuels, I can't imagine these are going to get any cheaper in the months to come.... http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/...leitemid=518890

I see he was listed as shooting in Open division. Was he using an 8-shooter with a dot?

....but later this week, when Sam comes up from "the holler" into town so the nice lady at the Post Office can read his email to him, I want him to know the 3 Amigos are getting tired of having him dodge us like that.

BigDeer, we're glad you're taking an interest! IPSC/USPSA is slowly awakening to the Revolver Division as more and more shooters take up the wheelgun. We're still a pretty small group comparatively, but the growth trend is truly encouraging. And nobody's done more to promote the growth in Revo than Sam Keen. Sam's an excellent revolver shooter, extremely smooth, very fast on the reload, and really good at breaking down stages. When we shot together at the Florida Open early last year, when I was still first getting started at this IPSC/USPSA stuff, Sam took the time to help me figure out how to run through difficult high-round-count stages without falling on my face too badly. I'll always appreciate the encouragement he provided.

Thanks so much for dropping in and participating in our discussion here, Mrs. Keen. We all understand how proud you must be of your son's accomplishments!

Excellent!! Just make sure you feed it good ammo with properly-seated Federal primers, and you can start pressuring Cliff in a big way!

Honestly? I'd recommend you avoid the Weigand rear blade. I've tried these on a couple guns, and I'm lukewarm on them. Pretty good idea, but not real well executed if you ask me. It'll fit loosely and flop around more than you like. It's also made of aluminum and will slowly turn silver with use, and you can't touch it up with cold blue. The Milletts are more expensive, but well worth it, in my view. Plus you don't have to mess around breaking and replacing the windage screws and all that jazz.

BigDeer: There are two wheelgunning Sams! The first is the original goodwill emissary of the revolver, my buddy Sam Keen (aka Hopalong, aka Hilljack #1). The second is my son Sam Carmoney. Sam Keen is the shooter who won Area 8. You are correct on the "3 Amigos." I have no idea about the casino thing, other than I know Sam Keen has stated he is shooting Limited at the big show, so that may explain why Vegas isn't watching him this year!

Congratulations, Sneaky Sam! Nice shooting in Pennsylvania. As I recall, though, when you were challenged to show up for the BIG summer revolver match in Pennsylvania, weren't you the guy who said (and I quote): "You buy my plane ticket, pick up the hotel room and pay the entry fee and I'll go!"

Like I said above, you just bend the mainspring back slightly and you're fine. I put the bend more or less in the middle of the leaf. Can't really describe how much bend I give it, other than to say that only the last few turns of the strain screw seem to be adding tension to the spring. Usually my initial bend is a little too much, and I have to tweak it back a little to get 100% ignition. It's more art than science. You got nothing to lose by just digging in and working on it. (I don't think I've ever ruined a factory mainspring, but if I ever do, it's only a $4 part!)

My goal in a competition DA revolver action is about 6 smooth pounds (give or take a little), which I believe is about the threshold for sustainable ignition reliability without having to get really fussy about ammo, moonclips, and maintenance. In accomplishing this, I bend the stock mainspring and usually reduce the length of the strain screw a bit. (Doing all the adjustment at the strain screw can cause knuckling if you go too light.) Years ago when I started doing revolver actions, I did all the mainspring adjustment by shortening the strain screw. (I had tried spring kits, but they usually seemed better than stock, but still way too heavy.) I was always paranoid about getting too close to the edge, because then the strain screw was ruined and I would have to run up to the gun shop and buy another. It never even dawned on me to bend the spring until one night before a pin match I was trying to do the action on a new revolver I really wanted to shoot. I got everything all done and went out to test-fire the gun, and was disappointed to find that it misfired every once in awhile. I had no extra strain screw and the gun shop was closed, and standing there looking at it, I decided--screw it--I'm gonna take vise grips and tweak that mainspring back just a little to give it a bit more tension. Needless to say, it worked fine, and kept on working fine. I then discovered if you could add tension by bending the leaf, you could also readily reduce tension by simply bending it the other way. So now when I set up an action (obviously, I also hone the internals to make everything nice and smooth), I buzz down the strain screw a little (can't tell you exactly how much), then bend the mainspring (again, can't quantify it, but I've done enough of them I can usually get it pretty close), then put it back together and test-fire. Usually I've got it a little too light and I have to increase the tension just a bit to make sure I will get no clicks. Then I balance the rebound spring (usually trimming 2 or 2.5 coils, sometimes more) to the appropriate tension--it's definitely a good idea to have a few extra rebound springs around, because you can't bend 'em back, and the worse thing you can have (other than a gun that goes click when it should go bang) is sluggish rebound. There's more to doing an action than just spring work, of course, but spring work is still the heart of a great competition revolver action. The factory sends them out so oversprung it's ridiculous. Bottom line--don't be afraid to bend 'em. You don't need to throw money away on aftermarket revolver springs.

Wow--very cool! Bud Bond is a friend of mine and a world-class wheelgunner. (My moment in the sun was Second Chance '93, where I edged Jerry into 3rd place overall. Both of us were shooting 8-3/8" Model 27s. Unfortunately, Ken Tapp whipped us both!) I'll congratulate Bud next time I see him, since he doesn't like computers....

Which Carmoney?