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Ditto That! Great Service, Speedy Delivery

I think it's High Plains Drifter where Clint enters the local bar for his first drink from being on the dusty trail. All the local tough guys come in to the bar to check him out and proceed to give him a speech about how "things move a little to fast in this town for strangers". Clint is drinking from a glass with his left hand his right hand out of sight below the bar. He looks at them at goes for the bottle with his right hand and all the local asspickers are stumbling and fumbling around trying to clear leather and get out of the way. That's great stuff

If attracting new shooters is one of the primary concerns maybe a division could be created just for them. Let them run with whatever equip they have. You only have IDPA gear, no problem. You have a Kahr , great come and play. CAS stuff is welcome too. Whatever. Let them run heads up, no awards with in that division without having to spend money to comply with a particular divisions requirements. Get them out to the matches with quality advertising and let our IPSC/USPSA shooting community do the rest. I can recruit much easier knowing I could bring them out to a match with their present equip then trying to explain what they need to comply. I already have a full right handed CR system set up for the recruits that holds one of my double stacks (I'm lefthanded). I know from my own experience and watching other newbies that once they shoot a match they are hooked and will do whatever it takes to procure their own or proper equip for their division of choice. Call it Rookie Division or whatever just get new people out and shooting without the fear of compliance or competion levels. I know, another dumb idea that has nothing to do with this thread.

Just for clarification, this is a 1911 type only single stack division we are talking about, correct?

After reading the SSC rules it would appear that race gear is not an option.

Now I remember. One of other the reasons I was disapointed. Caspian28r is right.

It's been awhile since I watched mine (2001 copyright) but I remember being a little dissapointed just because of the fairly basic info. I loan it out to new shooters or ones that I'm trying to recruit now. Good quality info, just very basic... stance, grip etc. FWIW.

I recently had a Para done by EGW and I asked for some cutting under the trigger guard like my STI and George advised against it because of the thickness (or lack of) of material in that location before it starts getting into the mag catch area. Very small change in the trigger guard area. not worth it as per EGW on a Para.

We've used the same plastic bags we cover the targets with. Clipboard and writing hand/hands go inside. Looking thru bag at scoresheets. A little bit of a PITA at first but soon you are able to rotate scoresheets and all other procedures right in the bag.

I too noticed that in both IDPA and CAS the participants pretend that other things (tactics, costumes etc) are more important the scores or winning. I suggest that you remove all methods of scoring and call the SOs TCs. (Tactics Counselors) And then it becomes a controlled training session and all the aforementioned problems go away. But I guess we would have to come up with something to combat trainsmanship. And Failure to Train Right.

Jon, After reviewing your scores from the Oct. 11 classifier match I saw that you had the highest points in your division and you were in the top three in points for the combined on every stage. (not counting the two you tanked #s 2 & 5) With hits like that you are on the right track. Keep up that level of accuracy and the faster times will come with practice and experience. You will move up in class easily with that kind of effort. Keep up the quality shooting.

Thats Awesome! Thanks Bob

Hey Vlad- I would make sure that you found all of the springs that landed in the stones when you disassembled on Sun.

I agree with Ron. Most of the props are a stage designers idea of humor and do nothing for the actual shooting contest. I still have nightmares from my CAS days of riding a stick horse while shouting a mandatory cowboylike slogan. That's what drew me to IPSC was the seriousness of the shooting. Not the cheesy gimmmicks.

David, I have not done anything but put it out on this forum. I guess I'm still trying to decide what to do. I know what the right thing is to do. But I enjoy the match that they put on and the people that shoot there. I also wanted to become a member of the range. I'm not a finger pointer or a tattle tail type of person. I mind my own business and live and let live so to speak. I'm not the guy (right or wrong) who yells foot fault, no shoot , proc. etc. at a match. I try to keep my opinions to myself. Since the RO is one of the main crew that help with the matches, I don't know what kind of response I would receive from the MD. My word as an outsider vs. his buddy type of thing. Typical I would normally not do anything to rock the boat.

I believe he was assigned by the MD to be the RO for our squad so based on that I can only assume the he is certified.

As serious as a dropped loaded pistol and 180 violations are, to me they pale in comparison to an RO leaving a shooter unattended during a COF for any reason let alone to answer the phone. It seems like a whole other level. I go to matches aware of the fact that someone (or myself for that matter) may break the 180, have an AD, or drop a firearm at anytime and I accept that risk. S**t happens. But to watch an RO stop to answer his phone, turn his back to the shooter and start to leave the COF just seems like such a blatant disregard of the rules and a callused attitude for the safety of the squad.

Greywolf, I believe that all squads scored with a hot shooter in the box. At the time I didn't think to much about it. But after adding up all things that went wrong at the match (at least in my squad )it's a little scary now. Jim, I didn't see how the pistol fell out but I think the holster was a Hogue set-up for a Glock with a 1911 in it and the shooter bent down for whatever reason and it fell out.

Adrie, He was the primary RO of my squad for the match. He is one of the main people involved with putting on the match each month. At the time I did not say anything to him but I did talk with other shooters in the squad about it. We just shrugged it off. A few things happened during the match that could have really gone bad. One the first stage we had multiple strings of fire with scoring between each string. Shooter stays hot in box. I'm down range taping, I hear a commotion behind me and I turn around and the shooter dropped his loaded pistol. DQ. Couple stages later, the phone call incident. The next stage giant 180 violation, visable to entire squad, no DQ, because compared to dropping a loaded handgun was not that big a deal seemed to be the verdict. After I thought about the match the more it started to bother me.

I'm assuming it wasn't life or death he did continue with the match.

I"m shooting the local match this weekend and I'm watching the action, the next thing I see is the RO during the COF stop to answer his phone. He completely turned his back to the shooter to to better see the screen/caller id then he answers it and starts to walk away leaving a very inexperienced shooter blasting away. WTF! Another squad member ran up and took the timer from him and was able to finish the COF. These guys always put on a quality match and are very safety conscience. Never shot with this RO before but it seemed his mind was elsewhere that day.

Ron I didn't intend to imply that you should find another sport, just to not try to alter the one you are in to match your abilities to make you more competitive. If it takes you 4-5 seconds longer than the young guys to get up from your knees, who cares. Shoot the match to the best of your ability. I just feel that lowering the standards/requirements to a base level to make everything fair and so everyone gets a turn at winning is wrong in any sport. I thought that one way to keep your competitive adreneline flowing would be to try a less movement based shooting discipline and kick some young people a**. It sounds like you have quality shooting skills. Did not mean to offend.

If mobility/health becomes an issue with your favorite shooting sport, maybe it's time to compete in another sport like NRA, Bianchi or Bullseye to channel your competitive energies and play to the best of your abilities in the more active disciplines like IDPA and IPSC. I love Baseball but when I became to old to play fast pitch hardball competitively and did not try to change the game to match my degrading ablilities. I could have used a larger lead off the bag than the quicker fellas or maybe make the pitcher throw underhand to everyone so that all levels of abilities could compete. I played until I felt I could not compete. Now I play slow pitch softball where the game is more about getting out on the diamond with friends more than anything else. I understand the need to keep shooters involved and to bring in new shooters and all the other PC reasons that people use, but I feel that the games, ISPC/IDPA, should not be brought down to just another stand and shoot match for those reasons. If you like to shoot IDPA shoot it to the best of your ability as the stage calls for and take the procs. or the extra time as needed. Don't change the game. Isn't trying to win in IDPA not in the spirit of the game? Isn't it suppossed to be all about how you shoot and not how you shoot against others?