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Hi, I would say "Show clear" again. To me that's not coaching but preventing a DQ as Vince said. What were your thoughts and that of this former RO ?

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And you guys wonder why French and Italian people have a certain reputation ...

Hi DukeofURL, As you are new here, you probably don't know that this is what we generally do here: someone posts a question that seems easy enough to answer, but we ALWAYS find ways to complicate things. Then we discuss it until we're al too tired to shoot decent results, which we then can discuss here as well

Luca, Good point. That solves the TL-light problem indeed ! But the rest of my concern still stands and I'm very interested to see where this discussion is leading to ....

Very interesting discussion, especially as this was precisely what the two CRO's of a match held this weekend had different opinions on. (The two opinions discussed here in this thread). And I was one of these CRO's .... The other CRO had ordered / offered a few reshoots because of unpatched targets and hesitating competitors. Later, upon discussing this in the debriefing, our RM said, like me, that the Rulebook as it is now doesn't offer a possibility to offer / order a reshoot. Personally I can feel for the competitors who are distracted by unpatched targets, but on the other hand I feel a sliding slope coming. IF it is ruled that RO's officially get the possibility to offer a reshoot in case of a competitor being distracted, a wide variety of possible distraction-reasons can be thought of, which, IMO, cannot practically be limited but in fact should be, to avoid competitors demanding a reshoot because they were distracted because of suddenly seeing a target which they had forgotten in the walkthrough ! (to give an example). I think you will agree that that is a case where a reshoot is not in order. But what if some TL-lights fall from the ceiling ? Although we have no option for that per the rules, we generally offer a reshoot for that here in NL (we almost 100% shoot indoors). So, that might also be mentioned as a reason to offer a reshoot. BUT if we don' t create a limitative list of things for which a reshoot can be offered, it still is fully up to the RO to decide whether the circumstances warrant a reshoot. SO, by adjusting the rules to allow for RO's to offer a reshoot for distracted competitors, we might solve one problem but possibly create another .... So I am very interested in the outcomes of this discussion !

Maybe because "gamers" are not Glock's primary market ? Compared to Government Contracts, I think the marketplace for just gamers could be too small ? Besides, what gun should I buy if Glock too went " the way of the gamer" ? I like Glock just because it doesn' t offer all those possibilities. But hey, that's just me :-)

Well, there are worse ways to go

And then there are the "chupachup" popsickles around here .....

I think I meant that written differently ....

Well Sky, I hate to admit it but that was my first thought too . And I kept thinking: if no sex for that long will keep you alive for all those years, I must be dying soon .....

Hmm ... sounds a bit like our sport too doesn't it ?

Neil thank you for this advice, my day is a little bit brighter now !

Dead Buff, don't be sad, it's great reading stuff !

Oh and in case you wonder: just push the bullet out via the shortest path. I (grudgingly) admit to having had this happen to me 2 or 3 times, and it's absolutely no problem for your barrel whatsoever.

Well, all things considered I agree it's probably the best solution. Being an RO this decision would definitely make life easier, that's true. But still .... I really, really, really hate having to compete on the level of accessories / money, and that's where PD seems to be heading now too . But I agree, there really does not seem to be a practical way to avoid this.

Hi, I know who's responsible for this and I'll e-mail your post to him. BTW: On my website there's a mirror of the WinMSS files available: http://www.elstrodt.nl/ipsc ********************* Addendum: I have sent the mail out. BTW, the mail address for this is winmss@ipsc.org . The link to Angelfire use to work before, but apparently Angelfire has changed it's policy for this. In the meantime, please use the mirror on my website to download.

Vince, That's why I always surf the forum while at work or very late at night, when I'm staying up to feed the baby his late-night bottle. I'm sure she would fall for this little kitten and want another cat, just as she is still in doubt whether we should stop now or go for our 4th kid . Cullen: she's very cute !

Oh Yoda, where are you ???

No thanks Vince, I want my own name & picture on that badge, not yours !!

This is an old thread that got revived I see .... Sky, you do know by now that you can simply join USPSA and receive FSM in your mailbox every two months, do you ? Just today the latest issue arrived so tonight I can be found curled up in my favorite chair, with a "do not disturb unless the house is on fire" sign next to me .

Congratulations !

I'm not going to show this to my kids. We just watched "finding Nemo" together this weekend. In fact, I'm a little bit down now myself too .

HeHeHeHe Hmm .. BURN .. Hmm BURN .. Hmm me like .. hmmm .. matches and stuff ... hmmm ...

Amen to that.