sdm74

You figure all shows bend the truth a little. But this takes it to a whole new level

Do you have a link? That's pretty crazy news

Is that true? If so that's pretty messed up. They are on there second or third season. Did this happen way before it even started?

Is this still true in the IPSC world? (IPSC Production) Check Your Trigger Pull Weight! Proposed changes to the IPSC 2012 rulebook http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=127983 (I don't know how to post a good looking link to another topic.) Wow if that's the case give me my 15 rounds too then . I mean who only "carries" 10 in the mag. What a bunch of worms we got for christmas..lol

Phil, thanks for posting. Having read what you have said, I would suggest that one of your first orders of business would be to re-visit this issue once you take office. Ask the AD's to get feedback from their SC's, ask the membership for feedback and opinions. Put a moratorium on this until you can spend time and hear what we have to say. Reach out to us. We don't need Imperial Presidency's. people voted for a change from what was there. Doing business as usual is no change. It is OUR organization, talk to us. if we don't know what the topics are you are voting on, how can we comment? +1

Your AD, Voight and Amidon told you they did not care about what you thought? I find that hard to beleive. My AD has been very recpetive to hearing my thoughts. When I have spoke to Voight and others ADs, whose area I am not even in, they too have listened to my opinions and provided their rationale and thoughts. If you don't talk or write to or call your elected officers, in any organization, they won't be able to read your mind. They may listen but they didn't care enough to find out how we thought to begin with.

No one cared about our thoughts to begin with. Maybe will see some outlaw pistol matches popping up like with 3 gun

When people first come to the sport they don't even now the rules of what u can and can't do. So the idea of a light trigger will "scare" people away from production is ludicrous

Wouldn't it have been easier to start a new production division if they are so worried about getting back to iits original intent? Could have called it production stock or something. Just like limited and L-10.

Id like to know the genius that put this on the floor for a vote. I have a hard time testing the weight of my m&p trigger

How would that work? If its a 3# requirement the weight would have to be less then 3 pounds

Don't forget to reduce your powder when you shorten them

Was this the new pres or the leaving pres?

I do load fairly long (1.140" OAL with a Montana Gold CMJ). I've done the drop and spin test, and can't tell that these rounds are touching the rifling, but will chamber check a "lot" and see what I find. Good to know there's another option, however, if I can't find the problem in my ammo. That must take alot of powder to make pf

Not sure if anyone has had there 930 for 30 years, maybe someone else will chime in

Just go with the over travel..that's what I have. After your first intial shot pre travel is a wash

It is not. The actual on the ground cost to run a major pistol match is about 50% to 60% of what it costs to run a major 3 gun match. What is the major cost difference? Im not bashing the sport, just curious. As to where the extra cost comes from.

Im sure its about the same cost as a major pistol match. Ro hotels etc. Still shooting the same targets, besides the cost of claybirds I assume

Guess I was wrong, the match fees are ridiculous. Coming from shooting pistol and the 20 bucks it takes to shoot ,I now see why most people say they can't afford it. Its not the guns its the 100 bucks or more just to go shoot a match..WOW. do people not like to shoot 3 gun if there's not a 100 thousand dollar prize table?

I got a message back once that to so long, I forgot I sent it

No

Thursdays was the new one The show doesn't update info for the "record first run only" to work

So you should be able to do that with out hitting release button? PS: where is best place to buy dummy rounds?

I am a total shotgun newb. What does it mean to hand cycle?

Was that the show on espn a few years ago? That was good.