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    Solo issues

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    Station 2 on a 550?? Why? Should be 1 - Sizing/de-priming, 2 - powder drop/case bell, 3 - seating, 4 - crimp

    Can you tell us exactly how you have it set up and what dies you are using??

    Dies don't matter. Process matters.

    Once you have a full shellplate.

    Seat bullet in station 2

    Indexing while grabbing new case

    Grab bullet while pulling handle.

    Nearly always multi tasking.

    Under 10 mins for 100 is easy once you get the hang of it. You need a decent amount of bell. I use .015 otherwise the bullets can fall over to easy.

    I was being facetious about the dies...not being literal, okay.

    New Shooter

    in Steel Challenge

    Posted

    There are three clubs I found in NY, one in Livonia is about 25 miles from Rochester:

    DUTCHESS COUNTY PISTOL ASSN – SCSA052 Contact Info Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

    Home: (845) 463-3844

    Email: ra_stasko@thestaskogroup.com

    ROCHESTER BROOKS PRACTICAL SHOOTERS – SCSA054 Contact Info Livonia, NY 14487

    Home: (585) 749-0804

    Work: (585) 346-5542

    Email: burban@frontiernet.net

    WATERVLIET PRACTICAL SHOOTERS – SCSA091 Contact Info Guilderland, NY 12303

    Home: (518) 229-6216

    Work: (518) 952-7868

    Fax: (518) 952-7868

    Email: bearsfan@nycap.rr.com

    Starting a new steel match

    in Steel Challenge

    Posted

    As far as times per shooter, per stage - it's a tad longer than USPSA. Where it's usually between 10 - 45 seconds per shooter and then scoring and pasting, so about 2 mins per shooter for USPSA, it's about 3 mins per shooter or longer for SC. When we have 30 shooters at our USPSA match, we start at 10:00 and are usually done by 12:30 - 1:00. With SC, we usually don't finish until about 1:45 - 2:15. I always thought it would go faster without the movement but when you factor in 5 strings and most shooters are reloading between strings, unbagging, re-bagging, etc., it just takes a tad longer.

    Yes, last month we had 24 shooters but 34 guns registered. So that's 42% that shot a second gun, almost half. One guy wanted to shoot three guns and I don't mind letting one or two people do it as long as they make sure to help their squad with painting, scoring, etc. And yes, most do one CF and one RF but some do both RF.

    Our second gun fee is $5.

    We paint the 2x4 red. We use GT Targets so we have a 2x4 that holds up the plate and everyone can see a big red board and it's not permanent too. Works out great.

    Good luck, hope it all turns out well...

    Solo issues

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    Yeah, does sound like a distance-to-chrono issue. If there was truly 200 fps difference, you would be able to tell a difference, did it feel that much lighter? Another idea is sometimes if you index the star on the 550 too hard, you can actually cause some powders to spell/jump out of the case. Is that a possibility? Let us know...

    New Shooter

    in Steel Challenge

    Posted

    So to get started in Steel Challenge I'm going to want to join and start shooting USPSA then?

    I'll look into the posted info.

    Sorry, should have made that more clear. No, you do not have to join USPSA or SCSA (Steel Challenge Shooting Association) to shoot Steel Challenge. Only if you shoot in the WSSC do you have to join SCSA to participate. On local shoots, you just go, pay the admission fee, and then shoot. It's not like IDPA where you have to join for all matches. No, you don't have to shoot USPSA matches, they just made it a business acquisition but it is still separate from USPSA. You do get a discount if you are already a USPSA member if you join SCSA.

    Pistol Caliber Carbines at SC?

    in Steel Challenge

    Posted

    Hello All,

    I have been asked quite a bit lately about allowing pistol caliber carbines in Steel Challenge matches. We do allow rimfire rifles and since they are pistol calibers, I don't believe there is any drawback to it. We use the thicker GT targets so they do say carbines are okay but I wanted to find out if other clubs allow it. If not, why? Thanks for any information...

    Need help with crimp

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    Yeah, I had the same problems until I switched my 9mm, 38 super, .40S&W, and .45ACP sizing die to the U-Die. That cured several problems I was having. One thing I really had to start doing is adding some One-Shot to the batch or it's really tough to keep the process smooth. Good luck...

    Limited Steel Challenge Gun Build Choices

    in Steel Challenge

    Posted · Edited by gng4life

    Thanks PMD for the link to the pics! Do you mind giving out the recipe of your 105 pf load? I'm looking at developing one now for my new SC pistol (pistol should be done next week).

    I have the video of last years WSSC and most pistols are on a serious diet, taking off anything not needed. I have one being re-built now for SC and it has a short, light slide, lightened barrel, STI slide/frame, TI comp, etc. I am hoping to get down to 32-33 ozs when it's done.

    Mine has a 4.15" barrel but it's open so not as much of a deal. When I do a Limited SC gun, I will probably go with a super lightened 6". However, I'm a nobody so take it for what it's worth... :)

    Starting a new steel match

    in Steel Challenge

    Posted

    Hi Jason,

    My club purchased our steel from GT Targets. Pretty good guys to deal with and since we have a SSC team, we got a decent discount for some really good quality steel. Call them and talk about what you need, I'm sure they'll help in any way they can.

    I would stick with Steel Challenge stages and maybe mix in some "custom" stages to change up some things. Definitely stay with the five target strings, it's revolver friendly so it draws more of a crowd. Also, .22LR has really taken off at my club - it accounts for about 70% of the entries every month.

    We have a very regular following and have good attendance with this setup in a medium sized city/area.

    PM me if you any specific questions or want to talk some more once you are closer to finalizing the deal. I am a match director of a new club so I can probably help you avoid the problems I had.

    Good luck...

    Help with chronograph data

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    I agree with Sarge, good info there. On the ES, that is your "extreme spread". It tells you the difference between your slowest shot to the fastest shot. For example, your Speer GD 125: Hi 808, Lo 784 - the difference between them is 24, which is your ES.

    Also, good advice on the slowest times - try to make sure you make PF with three of the slowest times!

    9mm load malfunctioning

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    I definitely agree with the chrono, if you reload, it's a necessary part.

    Yes, this is a light load for sure. Work your way up slowly and take your time. The Sierra manual shows a max of 5.1 but I am guessing a load of about 4.2 to 4.5 would do you good. Seriously think about the chrono, it's important.

    Good luck!

    9mm load malfunctioning

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    Hi there,

    Would you mind giving us more information:

    Pistol Model:

    Factory or Modified(what modifications):

    Did you chrono your loads, if so, what speed:

    Did it ever go to slide lock after last round(does it normally):

    What bullets are you using:

    Does factory ammo work without problems:

    Was the FTE an ejection or extraction issue:

    Did you drop gauge or chamber check your loads:

    How does the load feel to you and your mentor:

    I have use 231 (and HP38) a lot in the past but nothing in the last 10 years or so. However, that does seem like a light load and you really need to chrono it. Here is a link to some other 9mm load data some other gentlemen were using:

    http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247472

    Please give us more info so we can look at your issue...

    MG 124 CMJ length variance

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    G-Man I had that exact thought as it's very consistently 2 different measurements.

    Didn't find until last night, so will be Tuesday until I can call MG.

    Still sounds like I have an issue though based on what Sarge said about it not making a difference that the die should seat it the same regardless.

    This is not always true...I was loading some FPs one time with a FMJ type insert in the seating die and I was getting some really strange variance. The insert does make a difference sometimes, that's why they make them...

    However, this time it sounds like something is up with the MGs...

    What competition belt do you use and why?

    in Gear & Accessories

    Posted

    I have 2 CRs and when the AA came out, I tried it. It's a lot stiffer than the CRs, so I got one for my primary rig. I still have and use the CRs and would not hesitate to use them either. Since the AA came out, CR seem to have come out with a newer version. I do not know how stiff the newer CRs are.

    That's what I'm wondering too but I only see them in red and I hate red. Anyone have one of the new "Super Hi Torque Deluxe" belts and can tell us how it compares to the standard CR and the AA? Here is the link:

    http://www.rescomp.co.za/pSUPERHITORQUEDELUXE/Super-Hi-Torque-Deluxe-Range-Belt.aspx

    Thanks...

    PS I have to agree with you on everything in your post, that's exactly what I felt after having both of them...

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