Looking for new powder

[ParsonsWV]

So I have 8 pounds of WST and WSF I bought for reloading a couple years ago before I decided to get into reloading for major. From what I have seen neither of those powders are suggested. I have found a local store with Autocomp that I am picking up tomorrow. Any other powders I should look for? Will be reloading for a czechmate and a 2011. Will probably be buying some MG 124's or 115's as right now I have bayou bullets which apparently aren't good for open guns either. So basically I am rebuying all of my reloading supplies.

[shooterDrew]

HS-6 is popular. I load 9 major and have loaded with Autocomp from the start. I like it and feel no need to look elsewhere currently. I have 8lbs of HS6 I picked up here and there when powder was scarce but I’ve never loaded it. Lots of people do like it judging from posts.


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[shooterDrew]

Also- you can load coated lead for major. But it will leave lead build up in the comp and be smokey as hell. I’ve shot thousands of SNS 125 gr coated bullets at 171 PF. But they look like this....

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[muncie21]

Why do you say that Bayou are not 'good for open' guns?  I don't believe the  hi-tek coating strips off under high velocity like plated bullets do...

 

@shooterdrew that thing smokes like a choo-choo.  What bullet/coating was that?

 

Edited December 1, 2017 by muncie21

[ParsonsWV]

12 minutes ago, shooterDrew said:

HS-6 is popular. I load 9 major and have loaded with Autocomp from the start. I like it and feel no need to look elsewhere currently. I have 8lbs of HS6 I picked up here and there when powder was scarce but I’ve never loaded it. Lots of people do like it judging from posts.


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That's when I bought the powder I have. I had to have some reloading supplies for school and of course it was during the big shortage and sky high prices so I bought what I could find to get by.

 

 

3 minutes ago, muncie21 said:

Why do you say that Bayou are not 'good for open' guns?  I don't believe the  hi-tek coating strips off under high velocity like plated bullets do...

 

I read somewhere that lead fouled up comps as mentioned and that some lead bullets came apart under major loads.

[CamboSoup22]

Man shooterdrew. That was some smoke! At least you can tell that there’s a lot of gas going through the top of the comp and not out the front end. 

 

For the OP, I’m really liking ramshot silhouette and Aa7. There’s a lot of people who like autocomp but It felt a bit snappy. Hs6 felt good in my pistol but i couldn’t get the groups I liked. I’m running a Shorty with no popples. Good luck to you and happy loading!

[Ofishl1]

silohuette is ok...shooting open myself in 38 supercomp..I like Viht 3N38...clean..longshot is good but loud...7625 was my only powder until disc'od...then Viht.N105 has been my go-to for years...now running exclusive with Trublue and its outstanding..also in my PCC...be interested to hear feedback on TB...good luck.

[191138sc]

11 hours ago, CamboSoup22 said:

For the OP, I’m really liking ramshot silhouette and Aa7

115 gr and AA7. Great combination. Flat shooting but really blasty.

[racer-x]

9 hours ago, Ofishl1 said:

silohuette is ok...shooting open myself in 38 supercomp..I like Viht 3N38...clean..longshot is good but loud...7625 was my only powder until disc'od...then Viht.N105 has been my go-to for years...now running exclusive with Trublue and its outstanding..also in my PCC...be interested to hear feedback on TB...good luck.

What is your TrueBlue load for 9 major?

 

I started with TB in 9Major almost a decade ago, but looked elsewhere after 2 slides cracked using it. Pressures get crazy real fast with it at shorter OAL's too.

I do still really like it as a 9 minor PCC load though.

[racer-x]

 

[racer-x]

Also, AA#7 under 115's is my current load. Very happy with it.

 

Not as dirty as I thought at first and it performs the best of all that I have tried.

Being the slowest burn rate of the powders I've tested, chamber pressures should be the lowest as well (assuming same gun, bullet, PF & OAL).

Hopefully this translates into reduced stress on gun.

 

 

[iflyskyhigh]

I [emoji173]️ Silhouette. I run major in my modified G17 Open Gun. I ran HS-6 for awhile, but just found Silhouette to be a much more “even and balanced” powder.

 

An SD of less than 10 over 24 shots is about as good as I’ve ever gotten in a pistol. Makes me confident that the pistol is producing the power factor that I assume it is.

 

I also find Silhouette to be a good all all around powder, and it’s economical as are most of the Western Powders.

 

Created: 10/27/17 13:01

Description: Precision Delta 124gr JHP 9MM G17 Open

Notes 1: Precision Delta 0.355 JHP 35571 124 0.576

Notes 2: 6.8grs Silhouette

Distance to Chrono(FT): 8.00

Ballistic Coefficient: 0.145

Bullet Weight(gr): 124.00

Temp: 97 °F

BP: 29.88 inHg

Altitude: 0.00

# FPS FT-LBS PF

24 1379 523.68 171.00

23 1370 516.87 169.88

22 1384 527.48 171.62

21 1373 519.13 170.25

20 1370 516.87 169.88

19 1381 525.20 171.24

18 1380 524.44 171.12

17 1384 527.48 171.62

16 1381 525.20 171.24

15 1374 519.89 170.38

14 1374 519.89 170.38

13 1381 525.20 171.24

12 1383 526.72 171.49

11 1364 512.35 169.14

10 1361 510.10 168.76

9 1379 523.68 171.00

8 1377 522.16 170.75

7 1382 525.96 171.37

6 1384 527.48 171.62

5 1390 532.07 172.36

4 1370 516.87 169.88

3 1362 510.85 168.89

2 1361 510.10 168.76

1 1351 502.63 167.52

Average: 1374.8 FPS

SD: 9.5 FPS

Min: 1351 FPS

Max: 1390 FPS

Spread: 39 FPS

Shot/sec: 0.1

True MV: 1381 FPS

Group Size (in): 0.00

 

 

 

 

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[user293]

Running HS-6 out of my SV open gun now. Switched over from 3n38 because it's much cleaner reloading HS-6 on the press. 115 grain PD around 175 pf. Feels very nice. Predictable dot movement. 

[shooterDrew]

Running HS-6 out of my SV open gun now. Switched over from 3n38 because it's much cleaner reloading HS-6 on the press. 115 grain PD around 175 pf. Feels very nice. Predictable dot movement. 

Not totally on topic but I will say I’ve shot a lot of 125s and some 115 JHPs. The 115 gr JHPs were my favorite. Doubtful there’s a meaningful difference on a timer but I perceived them to be a better load.

[perttime]

1 hour ago, user293 said:

... Switched over from 3n38 because it's much cleaner reloading HS-6 on the press....

 

Do you mean that 3N38 fills the case to the brim and you get spills? That is pretty much what many are saying - and then they go looking for ways to make the machine smoother.

Edited December 1, 2017 by perttime

[user293]

34 minutes ago, perttime said:

 

Do you mean that 3N38 fills the case to the brim and you get spills? That is pretty much what many are saying - and then they go looking for ways to make the machine smoother.

yup exactly what I meant. I load  on a 550 currently so spillage isn't terrible but after just a 100 or 200 the press needs cleaning. using HS-6, even around 9 grains still isn't nearly as full as the 3n38 load and  never spills. and due to the full case, I was forced to use 124/5's with 3n38. not enough powder for 115s (with two big barrel ports and  a slower barrel). I plan to  upgrade to a 650 soon and it will be nice to not have to worry about spilled powder as much.

[user293]

47 minutes ago, shooterDrew said:

Not totally on topic but I will say I’ve shot a lot of 125s and some 115 JHPs. The 115 gr JHPs were my favorite. Doubtful there’s a meaningful difference on a timer but I perceived them to be a better load.

 

I really liked the 3n38 124/5 grain load but now since ive switched, I like the dot tracking and feel of the 115's and HS-6. its been working well. AA7 was comparable but liked HS-6 more.