jtrump Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Hello guys, First I would like to mention I've searched the internet and the website front to back and there are so many opinions, and different loads people are using it's really racking my brain. I just purchased this pistol and plan to shoot limited division. I have been reloading .45acp on my dillion 550 for awhile, using W231 and HP-38, using a 200g swc 1.250 oal. Getting into this .40 reloading business seems to be not as straight forward, and I want to make sure I'm happy with what I purchase. Things I'm hung up on: Jacketed or Coated "I feel there is a lean that the 180g Zero JHP is a very good accurate bullet" powder, powder, powder. Obviously I want to shoot my pistol as fast as my eyes can see accurately with the least amount of recoil making major PF. Which would be a good powder in combination with say A: Zero JHP B: Coated Bullet - bayou bullet, hi-tek not molly. I plan to run all of my brass through the re sizing tool before loading and I do have access to a chronograph. TLDR: Most Accurate, Soft shooting, Major PF .40 load I appreciate all of the input in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) There is no "best" -> Everybody's perception of recoil and what's "soft" is different. I've read everything I could find and in my DVC .40, I'm starting with an OAL of 1.180 - 180 HP X-Treme Plated - with 4.6 of Titegroup. I just swapped to a 12 pound Recoil spring. I don't think that will quite make Major, but I should be close. I'll test and work up from there.... Edited December 15, 2015 by Chutist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 I hear tite group is snappe and not just perceived... I don't have a clue by I don't want to buy powder and let it sit like some of my was ring bullets I bought when I first started reloading .45 I'm sure this post will get some action today, I pick up the gun today yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWprotected Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You have a powder that will work. In my gun 4.9gr. of 231 makes major with a bayou 180 at 1.18". I use coated bullets only, they cost less and allow me to use less powder to get the desired power factor. As always start low and work up. I do not think recoil is as harsh with 231 as it is with TG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougM Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I agree with SWprotected that HP-38 should work for you. I also use it for 45ACP and am happy using it for both calibers. However, I think the 4.9 grains may not give you much latitude in making major. I've been running 5.0 grains under a 180 grain plated RNFP loaded to 1.130 COAL. That has been getting me about 910 fps +/- out of a 4.75" Tanfoglio Witness Match which translates to about 165 power factor if my math is correct. Recoil, though, is not bad. The problem I have with HP-38 is that I'm already near max load according to Hodgdon. I personally wouldn't hesitate to load hotter if I needed to but I would proceed cautiously and keep a critical eye out for any signs of overpressure during my load development. If you need more velocity and aren't comfortable going above Hodgdon's max recommendation, you probably want to try another powder such as Power Pistol or Titegroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Off hodgdon's page I get this for HP-38 Case: Hornady Twist: 1:16" Primer: Winchester SP, Small Pistol Barrel Length: 4" Trim Length: .845 1.25 OAL start load 4.4g 872fps, max load 5.1g 984fps Now does this mean I have to load it to 1.25oal? or would I be correct implying I can load to say 1.20 oal, and using a 5inch BBL, I'm going to pick up some velocity without touching max load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougM Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Something is wrong on the OAL you quoted from the Hodgdon page. The standard COAL for 40S&W is 1.125" - not 1.250" If you were talking 45ACP, that number would be good but not for 40S&W. So assuming it is a typo, if you load to 1.200", your pressure will normally drop a little from theirs but your longer barrel will pick up some velocity. Hard to guess the net effect. I did notice that the speeds achieved on the Hodgdon site (and Alliant as well) tend to be optimistic and I rarely get within 30 - 40 fps of these figures using similar bullets. Remember that bullet composition and shape also have an impact with lead and coated/plated usually running faster than their jacketed counterparts for a given load. The numbers I quoted above were from a plated bullet out of a 4.75" barrel at 85* temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) I think I've decided on maybe the Bayou bullet. It was a typo I load my .45 loads to 1.250 oal, I'm thinking 1.20 for my .40 fixed. Edited December 14, 2015 by jtrump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I have used jacketed, xtreme plated and heavy plated, the xtreme plated ate just as good as the jacketed and heavy plated in my 2 .40 Edge's and my DVC .40. I got some blue bullets in a deal I made on a 9mm Edge, not shot a lot of them but they seem good so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ck867 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Anyone else have a DVC limited with load data that they would like to share? I just picked one up so I would like to see what everyone is using specifically for this gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 SNS 180, 1.170, 5 GR N320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog566 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Just getting started in reloading with my DVC. 4.5gr tightgroup with a acme coated 180 at 1.18=171 power factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadus123 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 4.1gr clays 180gr bayou 1.20 oal makes @ 173 pf in my dvc same as in my edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ck867 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 SNS 180, 1.170, 5 GR N320 Do you know the power factor for this load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliboudreaux Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I chronoed my DVC limited 40 lastweek, I use Ibejiheads 200gr 4.1gr N320 1.180 powerfactor is 169-172 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfaxis Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Match Formula - 171 PF Xtreme 180 Heavy Plate Win Small Pistol Primer VV N320 5.0 g 1.155 OAL This length works in both my DVC, Edge backup and wife's M&P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Match Formula - 171 PF Xtreme 180 Heavy Plate Win Small Pistol Primer VV N320 5.0 g 1.155 OAL This length works in both my DVC, Edge backup and wife's M&P. Which Xtreme 180 RNFP or HP? My N320 should be here Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Mine will be here tomorrow Chutist , chrono come Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erttactics Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 My DVC is liking blue bullets 180 gr. 4.6 of tite group loaded to 1.185. Shoots accurate enough and recoil isn't to harsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfaxis Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Match Formula - 171 PF Xtreme 180 Heavy Plate Win Small Pistol Primer VV N320 5.0 g 1.155 OAL This length works in both my DVC, Edge backup and wife's M&P. Which Xtreme 180 RNFP or HP? My N320 should be here Monday! Flat Point, Heavy Plate. http://www.xtremebullets.com/10-40-180-RNFP-HPCB-p/xc1040-180rnhpcb-b0500.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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