ilvwhtgrls Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I'm starting to get into reloading and I was wondering if anyone had any issues with Precision Delta bullets? I'm shooting a Tactical Sport in 40 and I read about issues with flat nose bullets? Any thoughts? http://www.precisiondelta.com/detail.php?sku=B-40-180-FMJ I ordered some Zero HPs in the mean time. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I had some issues with flat points in my TS, both reloads and factory. Playing around with OAL didnt really help either, so I switched to MG 180gr JHPs and they have been flawless so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfie Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Lots of people reload 40 here. LOTS!!! What specifically did you read? I'm curious to know. I've been using PD 40's for 4 years now and can't ever recall having a problem. For those that have been doing it: did anyone notice the shape of the nose changed about a year or so ago? Did you do anything to modify your loads? I found my O.A.L. shortened by .025 with the new bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Prepare to wait for the Precision Delta bullets. Montana Gold ships a lot faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I shot Zero and MTG flat point 180's in my TS with no issues. I found that the Zero 180JHP was the most accurate out of the gun and ran very well. If you want to produce very reliable 40 I recommend the Redding GRX, run all brass thru it and you won't have any fat boys to throw in the reject bucket. The TS requires basically factory length ammo or they won't fit in the mag or the gun. At short lengths you need to keep an eye out for pressure signs. My load with 180gr JHP's was 5.1gr of WST and Federal Small pistol primers PF @ 171. The gun would actually run with loads downed to 3.8gr of WST. No I don't think that was minor mayb 120 pf, good for steel. I tried moly coated bullets in the gun and the build up was just too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 check the reloading section on this forum. there are mountains of threads on reloading the 40. in terms of specifics on the TS, i'm using zero 180 jfps right now and am trying to sort out my first load with it. a few FTFs, but right now i'm working on ym magazine feed lips first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) My TS hates certain profile bullets. The Fiocchi 170gr Truncated FMJ was the absolute worst, new recoil spring and new magazine springs and a pristine clean feed ramp and that particular Truncated profile would fail to feed all the way in the chamber. So yes, some profiles just don't jive in the TS. As for reloads, my limited experience at present is with Rainier 165gr HP's and they fed beautifully. In initial testing the other day, (having only loaded a few hundred rounds) they were minute of clay bird on the berm accurate. ETA: Angus runs Zero bullets at SAAMI spec OAL Edited January 19, 2010 by Middle Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilvwhtgrls Posted January 19, 2010 Author Share Posted January 19, 2010 Good thing I ordered the Zero JHPs then! I've been reading the reloading section and already ordered a single stage lee and GRX for resizing. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The push-through sizer is a MUST. since i started using one, my OAL variations are under 0.005" with the majority being +/- 0.0005". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walküre Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 My TS hates certain profile bullets. The Fiocchi 170gr Truncated FMJ was the absolute worst, new recoil spring and new magazine springs and a pristine clean feed ramp and that particular Truncated profile would fail to feed all the way in the chamber. So yes, some profiles just don't jive in the TS. I've found this to be true as well - my TS will not feed TC profiles, but more rounded FP profiles feed fine. TC just die on the feedramp. (This is with factory TC vs factory FP rounds, as I haven't yet gotten around to buying .40 dies due to my remaining stash of factory .40S&W.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManNamedJed Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I've been loading Berry's 180gr FP with good results. Their 180gr HP didn't seem to feed as smooth. I use the Dillon sizing die and have less than 1% that don't pass case gage. Most of my .40 brass is range pickups, so there is a LOT of glock brass in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Van Valkenburg Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I have been running the Precision 185 Grn RNFP in my 75B. I did have to load them to factory length, my STI loads would not feed. I have been using the EGW U die, with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I shoot a CZ-40B and CZ-40P in steel and IDPA maches. Both have digested any bullet shape that has been fed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Hey Tony! Not a lot of 40b shooters out there. Check this one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Is that pedo bear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilvwhtgrls Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Lol, indeed it is. I burned through the first K of 180gr Zero JHPs with good results. I didn't have any problems with feeding. My current load is 4gr of Solo 1000 with an OAL of 1.130 which seems a little short. Any ideas? The guns shoots pretty flat and the recoil is pretty light, would I benefit from bringing it out a little longer. Unfortunately, no chrono yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 pedo bear with a classy username... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 OK, I got to the chrono. CZ TS 180 grain zero jfp 40 cal 4.6 grains TG cci primer 1.165" very light crimp average, 162 pf... just under... doh! i'm having some mag/feed problems that i think can be solved with new mag springs. i also ran into a couple long rounds which didn't help. it seems people have better luck with the shorter rounds... i may try running 1.135" to see if it helps my feed issues. consequently, i will need to back off of the TG load so i'll have to recipe hunt some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Lol, indeed it is. I burned through the first K of 180gr Zero JHPs with good results. I didn't have any problems with feeding. My current load is 4gr of Solo 1000 with an OAL of 1.130 which seems a little short. Any ideas? The guns shoots pretty flat and the recoil is pretty light, would I benefit from bringing it out a little longer. Unfortunately, no chrono yet. I'm loading to 1.130 OAL. Can't be too much longer, inside dimension of the mag tubes are 1.20" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Lol, indeed it is. I burned through the first K of 180gr Zero JHPs with good results. I didn't have any problems with feeding. My current load is 4gr of Solo 1000 with an OAL of 1.130 which seems a little short. Any ideas? The guns shoots pretty flat and the recoil is pretty light, would I benefit from bringing it out a little longer. Unfortunately, no chrono yet. I'm loading to 1.130 OAL. Can't be too much longer, inside dimension of the mag tubes are 1.20" I find that the upper limit of what can load in the mag is just a hair past 1.170". I set my press up for that and it looks like I had a couple go to 1.173" and it stacked up my mag. Oddly, it seemed like it still had plenty of room left to go before the rifling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 (edited) Lol, indeed it is. I burned through the first K of 180gr Zero JHPs with good results. I didn't have any problems with feeding. My current load is 4gr of Solo 1000 with an OAL of 1.130 which seems a little short. Any ideas? The guns shoots pretty flat and the recoil is pretty light, would I benefit from bringing it out a little longer. Unfortunately, no chrono yet. I'm loading to 1.130 OAL. Can't be too much longer, inside dimension of the mag tubes are 1.20" I find that the upper limit of what can load in the mag is just a hair past 1.170". I set my press up for that and it looks like I had a couple go to 1.173" and it stacked up my mag. Oddly, it seemed like it still had plenty of room left to go before the rifling. 1.130 average OAL would be a more accurate statement. I have some +/- 0.003 variations. You have to bear in mind the magazine and frame dimensions are based off previous large frame 38 Super (with 1.128 OAL) designs (Tangfo variants and Caspian wide body from days gone by) which themselves were take offs of the original 75 design. The forged frame the TS couldn't be much larger front to back and be comfortable...in fact I cut all the forged checkering off the front and backstraps on my TS. It's in a thread around here somewhere from a few years back. ETA: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59727&st=0&p=694208&fromsearch=1entry694208 Edited March 1, 2010 by Middle Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Yeah, I bought my TS used and it came with a grip reduction already done. I actually liked the huge grip, but the smaller grip is growing on me. I filled it out a tad using thick grip tape across the entire surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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