harald Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 (edited) I just got my 1911 from my gunsmith today. I am shooting bulleye, my load is 4.5gr 310 and a 200gr cast SWC I load magazines with 6 - 8 shots, I have tried 3 Wilson 47 and 1 shooting star magazine. First shots witout problems, but the next to last shot will not enter the chamber. When i push the magazin release butten the slide move forward and the shot go into the chamber. Is the slide stop the problem? Edited September 4, 2009 by harald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harald Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 Another pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 What happens if you put 8rds in the mags? I doubt it is the slide stop. Once you get #5 to feed by dropping the mag, will the gun then feed #6 if you reinsert the mag? Do you have a stronger recoil spring? Try a stronger one & see if it feeds all of them. MLM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harald Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 Yes I have tried with seven and eight shots in the magazine with the same result. Last shot will enter the chamber when I insert the magazine after the FTF The gun has a #10 recoil spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 What's with the brass shavings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee King Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Making sure we understand. It's always the next to last round? So if 6 in the mag it's #5. If 8 it's #7? Also, am I seeing some kind of gouge on the brass just under the extractor on the first picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harald Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 Yes, it is always the next to last round. It is not brass shavings you see in the pic, it is unburn power from to light reloaded ammo. 4.5gr will burn all powder. I think there is a problem with magazine and slide stop. I have sent a e-mail to the gunsmith about this problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y. Koester Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 a 10 pound recoil spring?? Seems pretty light?? Have you tried maybe a 12 pound spring?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pres Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 +1 Why would your run such a light recoil spring in bullseye ?? 14-16 for .45 1911 should be about right ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harald Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 Thanks I will try other heavier recoil springs tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harald Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 This is one of the "last" shots from shooting. It looks like the slide stops on the middle off the brass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resjudicata Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 It's unlikely to be the slide stop. It looks like in the second photo that the last round, the one still in the magazine, has slide forward and is bound up between the feed ramp and the round entering the chamber. That is why the partially chambered round will chamber when you drop the mag. Let me guess, when you hit the mag release in this scenario you have to pull the mag free and the round left in there is slightly forward and/or angled up? If the above is correct, then tuning the mag body and new heavier mag springs may solve the problem. A heavier recoil spring may solve the problem as well but the gun should run with a 10# spring. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) Looking at the round it appears to be too long. The length is a factor of the edge above the rim of the case which in a semi wad cutter is about a thumb nail width above the brass. I have not loaded that particular bullet but notice that the moly is off the edges of the bullet meaning its contacting something. The other thing is it looks like its not crimped very well as the edges seem to be turned out. And lastly it could be an optical illusion but that round looks pregnant, you know fatter in the middle than on the ends. You might just want to shoot a few factory rounds thru the gun, if that solves the issue then look at the reloads as the problem. Most of the time the Smith's that build a gun know what works, but 10# is very lite, and the slide looks like normal weight, if it were radically lightened I could see it. Try a 14# then when its all broke in drop to a 12# or 10# once you figure out what works. Edited September 4, 2009 by CocoBolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resjudicata Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Since the rounds chamber fine without the magazine in the gun I would find it hard to believe that it is a "pregnant" load. Too long I could see being a problem. That could help get the round that is still in the magazine jammed into the feed ramp. I think it will end up being magazine related. Hopefully the original poster comes back to keep us updated on what he finds. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resjudicata Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 So, have you figured it out yet? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harald Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) I shot the match without any problems. I used my Dremmel one the slide stop, like Brazos custom explains. Then I used a fine Arkansas stone and removed a sharp corner on the under side of the slide. This sharp corner made the marks on the last round in the magazine. Like the one pic in post 11. I used the macro fungtion one the camera, that is why the round looks "pregnant" And I crimped the bullets a bit more. Last week I sent the gun to my gunsmith to have the frontsight adjusted a little lower. He will check the gun Edited September 15, 2009 by harald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resjudicata Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I shot the match without any problems.I used my Dremmel one the slide stop, like Brazos custom explains. Then I used a fine Arkansas stone and removed a sharp corner on the under side of the slide. This sharp corner made the marks on the last round in the magazine. Like the one pic in post 11. I used the macro fungtion one the camera, that is why the round looks "pregnant" And I crimped the bullets a bit more. Last week I sent the gun to my gunsmith to have the frontsight adjusted a little lower. He will check the gun Be careful trimming the slide stop down. It can get caught under the mag follower and keep the mag from falling when empty forcing you to drag it out when reloading. Hope you've got it resolved. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 A little late to this game...my first thought was slide stop. Second to the last round stoppage is classic for 2011's too. Almost always a mag/slidestop issue. If you like the way the gun feels with a 10# spring, go with it. Nothing wrong with that. Going heavier is rarely the answer to feed stoppages. IF it is, a little more work on the chamber mouth fixes it. If it was speratic, not always same round in the mag then I would think it was an over tight extractor. Sounds like you got it resolved though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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