Sudden Death Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I ran across some heavy buffers for AR-15 they are made out of stainless steel and tungsten and they claim that they weigh 6.5oz.And they also claim that felt recoil is less and faster follow up shots. Just wondering if anyone has used one of these in your rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Ahhhh..... Seen a bunch made lighter but never seen anyone go heavier. Lighter reciprocating weight (IMO) means less felt recoil and quicker recovery from recoil if the gun is tuned correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Death Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 Mer your right ,but AR's recoil twice and I guess this company is claiming the heavy buffer stops the second recoil (maybe)????My rifles are set up and adjusted right BUT this little thing just got me thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I am sure in a few min. we will see the mathematical formulas proving it does/does not start appearing... It may boil down to personal preference just like the diff in that some shooters prefer the heavy bullet push recoil vs the snappy & quick. I know there are a lot of people selling the lightened bolt carriers and lighter buffers. I can really feel a distinct difference (for the better) with the lighter setup vs stock weight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I am not too caught up in 'conventional wisdom', as a result I try a lot of different stuff. Sometimes it doesn't work at all, sometimes it works OK, and sometimes it is completely kick ass. Regardless of the outcome I become less ignorant for trying it and worst case my wallet is a little lighter, but that is OK by me. Knowledge usually comes at a cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 A heavy reciprocating assembly slows the cycle time. Given the same energy input..a greater mass will take more time to accelerate. Playing with Light or heavy buffers and carriers along with adjusting gas systems It can keep you up at night Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 A heavy reciprocating assembly slows the cycle time.Given the same energy input..a greater mass will take more time to accelerate. Playing with Light or heavy buffers and carriers along with adjusting gas systems It can keep you up at night Jim and as some who has played a bunch with yourself heavy and light carriers and setups...what is the optimum - very bestest system...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 A heavy reciprocating assembly slows the cycle time.Given the same energy input..a greater mass will take more time to accelerate. Playing with Light or heavy buffers and carriers along with adjusting gas systems It can keep you up at night Jim and as some who has played a bunch with yourself heavy and light carriers and setups...what is the optimum - very bestest system...? Bestest is whatever feels mostes good.---------------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 and as some who has played a bunch with yourself heavy and light carriers and setups...what is the optimum - very bestest system...? I think the answer to that question is tied to many factors. The load, bullet weight etc will have an effect. The individual shooter will react to the impulse differently. What feels good to one person won't to another. On the heavy carriers, highpower shooters have been adding carrier weights when shooting heavy bullets to keep the bolt locked a bit longer, and get a bit more velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Bestest is whatever feels mostes good.---------------Larry ...and runs 172% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Death Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 I pretty sure this subject,even though I started it, is like 1911 recoil springs. I need to get this out of my head .SOMEBODY please start another subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Well then... I think I will go to the kitchen and fix me up a big bowl of Bluebell Vanilla and pour some Hershey's chocolate on it and .... savor the flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Keep that up and you will be working on your own heavy buffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Death Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 Keep that up and you will be working on your own heavy buffer. I know and the bad thing about it I got access to all machinery to do it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Go for it Jeff, knowledge isn't always cheap or easy, but it is worth it. If I had the time I would, not knowing for me is the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cking Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Heavy buffers, used to slow full auto rate, used to delay unlock on high pressure cartridge or short gas system guns. Downside more moving weight means secondary recoil during lockup with be greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastshooter03 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Should it be called secondary recoil or forwardcoil? Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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