Dan Hefta Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I am looking for some advise on a good 130 PF load using a G34, 115 gr Montana Gold FMJ bullets and Win primers. I am currently using Power Pistol powder 5.6 grs and have a 130PF. I am thinking of switching to Titegroup and am looking for a good starting point. Any and all advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I am looking for some advise on a good 130 PF load using a G34, 115 gr Montana Gold FMJ bullets and Win primers. I am currently using Power Pistol powder 5.6 grs and have a 130PF. I am thinking of switching to Titegroup and am looking for a good starting point. Any and all advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan Check in the reloading section under 9mm. There is everything you need there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hefta Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 I am looking for a specific load for a specific gun so I thought that the Glock Forum would be a good place to start. I am not having any luck in the reloading section. I know that there are a lot of G34 shooters out there that use 115gr bullets and titegroup. The Titegroup website has some reloading data but it is not gun specific. So anybody who has a load that they want to share info on I would appreciate it. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trafalga21 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I am looking for a specific load for a specific gun so I thought that the Glock Forum would be a good place to start. I am not having any luck in the reloading section. I know that there are a lot of G34 shooters out there that use 115gr bullets and titegroup. The Titegroup website has some reloading data but it is not gun specific. So anybody who has a load that they want to share info on I would appreciate it. Dan I have been working loads with Titegroup and my new G34 for the last couple of weeks - hope this helps. Wiht G34: I am using 115g FMJ bullet with 4.1g of Titegroup, Win small pimers, and OAL of 1.15. I am getting it to chrono, in daylight, at pf128.05 @32 degrees, and pf 128.72 @45 degrees. Used the LED shields on the chrono 2 days ago and it came up as pf123.683 @44 degrees, not sure why the large difference, but some other ammo we ran across it showed the same percentage loss in pf. Still trying to figure this out. I started this load at 3.8g of Titegroup and had a pf of 124.3 I have some 125g FMJ data also if your interested. -Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hefta Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 I am looking for a specific load for a specific gun so I thought that the Glock Forum would be a good place to start. I am not having any luck in the reloading section. I know that there are a lot of G34 shooters out there that use 115gr bullets and titegroup. The Titegroup website has some reloading data but it is not gun specific. So anybody who has a load that they want to share info on I would appreciate it. Dan I have been working loads with Titegroup and my new G34 for the last couple of weeks - hope this helps. Wiht G34: I am using 115g FMJ bullet with 4.1g of Titegroup, Win small pimers, and OAL of 1.15. I am getting it to chrono, in daylight, at pf128.05 @32 degrees, and pf 128.72 @45 degrees. Used the LED shields on the chrono 2 days ago and it came up as pf123.683 @44 degrees, not sure why the large difference, but some other ammo we ran across it showed the same percentage loss in pf. Still trying to figure this out. I started this load at 3.8g of Titegroup and had a pf of 124.3 I have some 125g FMJ data also if your interested. -Adam Adam, thanks for the info that is exactly what I needed to start my loads from. I like to be at 130 PF, so I will bump it up a bit. I want to make sure that the steel falls. Thanks again, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJONES5 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 (edited) I am looking for some advise on a good 130 PF load using a G34, 115 gr Montana Gold FMJ bullets and Win primers. I am currently using Power Pistol powder 5.6 grs and have a 130PF. I am thinking of switching to Titegroup and am looking for a good starting point. Any and all advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan I know you asked about 115 but here is a really soft shooting load,I think the 147's drop the steel better. 147 gr Barry plated 1.145 oal 3.2 gr clays 128 to 130 pf steel will fall shoots like a 22. my load for Glock 34 pat Edited April 3, 2008 by PJONES5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hefta Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 I am looking for some advise on a good 130 PF load using a G34, 115 gr Montana Gold FMJ bullets and Win primers. I am currently using Power Pistol powder 5.6 grs and have a 130PF. I am thinking of switching to Titegroup and am looking for a good starting point. Any and all advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan I know you asked about 115 but here is a really soft shooting load,I think the 147's drop the steel better. 147 gr Barry plated 1.145 oal 3.2 gr clays 128 to 130 pf steel will fall shoots like a 22. my load for Glock 34 pat I have heard that 147gr is the bullet to go with, however I just got 4000 Montana Gold 115gr bullets and with the price of lead now I think I am going to stay with 115gr for now, I may try that load in the future so thanks for the info. Thanks alot Pat, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trafalga21 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 I know you asked about 115 but here is a really soft shooting load,I think the 147's drop the steel better. pat I have heard that 147gr is the bullet to go with, however I just got 4000 Montana Gold 115gr bullets and with the price of lead now I think I am going to stay with 115gr for now, I may try that load in the future so thanks for the info. Thanks alot Pat, Dan Question - I have heard other people talk about using heavy bullets in 9mm and the steel issue. My question is if the PF is the same on different weight bullets, both loads should be delivering the same amount of energy. So is this just a felt / perceived difference in Steel's reaction? I don't have any heavy bullets or I would load them up and see for myself. Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJONES5 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 I know you asked about 115 but here is a really soft shooting load,I think the 147's drop the steel better. pat I have heard that 147gr is the bullet to go with, however I just got 4000 Montana Gold 115gr bullets and with the price of lead now I think I am going to stay with 115gr for now, I may try that load in the future so thanks for the info. Thanks alot Pat, Dan Question - I have heard other people talk about using heavy bullets in 9mm and the steel issue. My question is if the PF is the same on different weight bullets, both loads should be delivering the same amount of energy. So is this just a felt / perceived difference in Steel's reaction? I don't have any heavy bullets or I would load them up and see for myself. Adam Not to give a short answer,as I am a old Hillbilly and not up on the book smarts. Heaver bullet weight transfer's more energy to the target. It works. pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trafalga21 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 I know you asked about 115 but here is a really soft shooting load,I think the 147's drop the steel better. pat I have heard that 147gr is the bullet to go with, however I just got 4000 Montana Gold 115gr bullets and with the price of lead now I think I am going to stay with 115gr for now, I may try that load in the future so thanks for the info. Thanks alot Pat, Dan Question - I have heard other people talk about using heavy bullets in 9mm and the steel issue. My question is if the PF is the same on different weight bullets, both loads should be delivering the same amount of energy. So is this just a felt / perceived difference in Steel's reaction? I don't have any heavy bullets or I would load them up and see for myself. Adam Not to give a short answer,as I am a old Hillbilly and not up on the book smarts. Heaver bullet weight transfer's more energy to the target. It works. pat That simple answer makes sense to me, without doing all of the science! Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowrod Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 Are you going to believe you lying eyes or are going to believe me. I have both G34 and G35 production guns. At equivalent Power Factors, as close to 130 as I can make them, the G35 shoots softer with 180 grain Zeros than G34 with 147 Zeros. Unfortunately, and I don't understand why, I leave steel poppers standing with the 180 Zeros. Guess what I shoot major matches with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 use the CLAYS load data published on hodgdon website. it makes a nice load at 3.9 grains and a 1.150 oal It is a whole lot cleaner than TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtrooper Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Comparing the 115 to the 147 knocking down steel how about getting hit with a tennis ball and a baseball both traveling at 900fps which one will jar you the most? Extreme example but I think that's why the 147 works better on steel than the 115. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Dan, I know you didn't ask about other bullet weights, but since you are collecting info, I get excellent results in my G34 using a 124gr bullet. It splits the difference nicely between the 115gr and the 147gr. My formula is a Berry's copper coated 124gr RN bullet with 3.9gr TiteGroup powder and an OAL of 1.155 to get me a PF of 131.x in my G34. This load also makes Minor in my G17 which is nice in case I have problems in a match that force me to switch to the backup gun. This load also works great for me on knock-down steel. As far as cost, the 124gr Berry bullets cost a couple of dollars less than the MG 115gr bullets. Just something to consider when you run out of your current stash of 115gr bullets. For what it's worth, I actually prefer the Montana Gold bullets. They rock, and I pay the extra money to shoot them in my 40 cal guns. But I needed a "non-jacketed" load for one of the clubs I shoot at and that had me try the Berry's. -Cuz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badchad Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Comparing the 115 to the 147 knocking down steel how about getting hit with a tennis ball and a baseball both traveling at 900fps which one will jar you the most? Extreme example but I think that's why the 147 works better on steel than the 115. I don’t have an opinion on what drops steel better, but he’s talking about shooting steel with different weight bullets at the same power factor. As such for your analogy to hold up you would have to compare getting hit by a baseball at 900 fps vs. a tennis ball at, I'm guessing, 2500 fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Leader Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I am looking for some advise on a good 130 PF load using a G34, 115 gr Montana Gold FMJ bullets and Win primers. I am currently using Power Pistol powder 5.6 grs and have a 130PF. I am thinking of switching to Titegroup and am looking for a good starting point. Any and all advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan I know you asked about 115 but here is a really soft shooting load,I think the 147's drop the steel better. 147 gr Barry plated 1.145 oal 3.2 gr clays 128 to 130 pf steel will fall shoots like a 22. my load for Glock 34 pat Hi With this load did you change the opperating spring ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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