Something similar to WWB

[astephenson]

I've been shooting WWB 115's (in the 100 round value pack from Wal-Mart) lately in my G17, and I'd like to load something similar for my first attempt at reloading, to act as a "jumping-off point" for further experimentation. What powder and charge will I need...does anyone know what powder Winchester uses in the WWB's?

My press just came in yesterday (thanks Brian, BTW!), so I figured I'd stick with what I know runs the gun till I gain a little more confidence and experience.

[al503]

Do you have any reloading components yet or are you going to get some recommendations here before you place an order?

[astephenson]

Do you have any reloading components yet or are you going to get some recommendations here before you place an order?

Waiting to hear suggestions here.

[al503]

My first suggestion would be to experiment a little as the 115 gr WWB is a little snappy IMO. I don't think there are many using 115's when they're rolling their own.

I would definitely try at least 124 gr as they will shoot noticeably softer at the same PF. There are many that are shooting 147 gr bullets although some claim that it feels a little sluggish with the heavier bullet.

Whatever bullets you do go with, try to go with a JHP or something that is fully encapsulated so you don't have as much smoke as you would with open base (FMJ)'s bullets. The former are usually around the same price so there's no reason not to.

[Merlin Orr]

Go here and read a few of these threads and you will have a general idea of what you want....

Just pick out the thread tittles that look interesting and start with them...

[98sr20ve]

I've been shooting WWB 115's (in the 100 round value pack from Wal-Mart) lately in my G17, and I'd like to load something similar for my first attempt at reloading, to act as a "jumping-off point" for further experimentation. What powder and charge will I need...does anyone know what powder Winchester uses in the WWB's?

My press just came in yesterday (thanks Brian, BTW!), so I figured I'd stick with what I know runs the gun till I gain a little more confidence and experience.

I would also aim for improving over the WWB. Why aim for "D's" when you can aim for "A's".

With that in mind, my first attempt if I was to do it all over again would be

Precision Delta Bullets. At least 124gr.

Tightgroup Powder at the starting load for your type bullet.

Load 10 of the starting load. 10 with a .2 gr more, 10 with another .2 gr more. Always staying .2 away from Max load at min. Then shoot the starting and see if they cycles the gun reliable. Shoot the other's and watch for pressure or other unussual things. I ussually find the round that will barely cycle the gun (would probably stovepipe weak handed), adding .2 gr of tightgroup will ussually make the gun reliable. Then experiment from that point.

[DeweyH]

I've been shooting WWB 115's (in the 100 round value pack from Wal-Mart) lately in my G17, and I'd like to load something similar for my first attempt at reloading, to act as a "jumping-off point" for further experimentation. What powder and charge will I need...does anyone know what powder Winchester uses in the WWB's?

My press just came in yesterday (thanks Brian, BTW!), so I figured I'd stick with what I know runs the gun till I gain a little more confidence and experience.

I had the same idea when I started reloading. I shoot 115gr Precision Delta bullets with 4.6 gr of Titegroup. Out of my M&P it has the same velocity as WWB, about 1140 to 1150 fps. My gun likes the load, so I like it too. I do however shoot 125 gr lead for practice but that is only because I can get it real cheap.

[Bergie]

I shoot a 125 Montana gold FMJ, 5.5 grains of VV 3N37 1.150 OAL 1050fps.

Very nice load.

[Darrell]

Bullet Bullet Wt Powder Chg Wt. Primer Case O.A.L Avg E.S. S.D. PF Grp Size

Blazer 115 1.160 1199 30 9.5 137.9

Blazer 115 1.160 1178 33 9 135.5 3.93

Collins 124 1122 37 10.6 139.1

GAT 125 231 4.00 W/W 1.142 984 33 9 123.0 2.05

GAT 125 231 4.00 W/W 1.142 997 43 13 124.6 2.09

GAT 125 A. S. 3.50 Mix W/W 1.130 947 37 12 118.4 2.10

GAT 125 A. S. 3.70 W/W 1.130 1039 65 20 129.9

GAT 125 A. S. 3.70 W/W 1.130 1062 57 20 132.8

GAT 125 A. S. 3.70 Mix W/W 1.130 1007 20 6 125.9 2.54

GAT 125 A. S. 3.90 Mix W/W 1.130 1021 49 13 127.6 2.61

GAT 125 N320 3.80 W/W 1.142 983 37 10 122.9

GAT 125 N320 4.00 W/W 1.142 1006 18 5 125.8

GAT 125 N320 4.00 W/W 1.142 1043 30 9 130.4

Gold Dot 147 1.125 983 52 18 144.5

Gold Dot 147 1.125 952 33 9 139.9 2.20

Gold Dot 147 1.125 996 27 7 146.4 4.00

M. G. 124 A. S. 4.20 W/W Ind. 1.100 1024 46 14 127.0

M. G. 124 A. S. 4.20 Mix W/W 1.100 994 64 18 123.3 2.09

M. G. 124 A. S. 4.30 W/W W/W 1.100 0.0 1.21

M. G. 124 N320 3.60 W/W W/W 1.100 932 62 21 115.6 3.38

M. G. 124 N320 3.80 W/W W/W 1.100 973 44 16 120.7 4.00

M. G. 124 N320 4.00 W/W W/W 1.100 1025 42 13 127.1 2.00

M. G. 124 T. G. 4.00 W/W Ind. 1.100 1072 37 11 132.9

M. G. 124 T. G. 4.20 W/W Ind. 1.100 1113 15 5 138.0

M. G. 124 T. G. 4.40 W/W Ind. 1.100 1174 55 16 145.6

M. G. 124 T.G. 4.20 Mix W/W 1.100 1106 61 15 137.1 1.84

M. G. 124 T.G. 4.30 Mix W/W 1.100 1124 62 16 139.4 2.13

M. G. 124 T.G. 4.40 Mix W/W 1.100 1153 60 17 143.0 1.87

P. Delta 124 231 4.10 W/W W/W 1.150 993 29 9 123.1 4.23

P. Delta 124 231 4.10 W/W W/W 1.150 993 123.1 1.52

P. Delta 124 231 4.30 W/W W/W 1.150 1044 58 20 129.5 4.05

P. Delta 124 231 4.30 W/W W/W 1.150 1044 129.5 1.07

P. Delta 124 231 4.50 W/W W/W 1.150 1064 45 14 131.9 4.20

P. Delta 124 T.G 4.10 W/W Ind. 1.150 1103 57 14 136.8

P. Delta 124 T.G 4.30 W/W Ind. 1.150 1134 20 6.7 140.6

P. Delta 124 T.G 4.50 W/W Ind. 1.150 1171 31 9.2 145.2

P. Delta 124 T.G 4.60 W/W Ind. 1.150 1185 31 9 146.9

P. Delta 124 A. S. 3.20 W/W Ind. 1.150 833 82 30 103.3 1.75

P. Delta 124 A. S. 3.80 W/W Ind. 1.150 965 50 16 119.7

P. Delta 124 A. S. 4.00 W/W Ind. 1.150 1012 44 13 125.5

P. Delta 124 A. S. 4.20 W/W Ind. 1.150 1025 47 13 127.1

P. Delta 124 A. S. 4.20 Mix W/W 1.150 1000 53 13 124.0 3.23

P. Delta 124 A. S. 4.20 Mix W/W 1.150 1007 45 15 124.9 3.69

P. Delta 124 A. S. 4.20 Mix W/W 1.150 1028 31 9 127.5 2.02

P. Delta 124 A. S. 4.40 W/W Ind. 1.150 1082 38 12 134.2

P. Delta 124 A. S. 4.60 W/W Ind. 1.150 1083 41 12 134.3 2.00

P. Delta 124 A. S. 4.60 W/W Ind. 1.150 1109 53 15 137.5

P. Delta 124 N320 4.00 W/W W/W 1.150 1006 46 16 124.7 2.33

P. Delta 124 N320 4.20 W/W W/W 1.150 1043 23 7 129.3 2.03

P. Delta 124 N320 4.20 W/W mixed 1.125 1085 53 18 134.5 3.38

P. Delta 124 N320 4.20 W/W mixed 1.142 1065 33 10 132.1 1.73

P. Delta 124 N320 4.20 W/W mixed 1.150 1061 21 7 131.6 2.55

P. Delta 124 N320 4.40 W/W 1.150 1077 33 11 133.5 3.55

P. Delta 124 N330 5.00 W/W 1.142 1115 28 7 138.3 2.50

P. Delta 124 N330 5.00 W/W 1.142 1151 28 7 142.7 3.37

P. Delta 124 N330 5.10 W/W 1.142 1129 24 7 140.0 2.75

P. Delta 124 N330 5.10 W/W 1.142 1164 30 9 144.3 3.06

P. Delta 124 N330 5.20 W/W 1.142 1143 33 10 141.7 2.50

P. Delta 124 N330 5.20 W/W 1.142 1187 36 9 147.2 2.62

P. Delta 124 N330 5.30 W/W 1.142 1155 28 8 143.2 2.00

P. Delta 124 N330 5.30 W/W 1.142 1200 19 7 148.8 2.12

P. Delta 124 T. G. 4.00 W/W W/W 1.150 1043 43 15 129.3

P. Delta 124 T. G. 4.20 W/W W/W 1.150 1079 52 16 133.8

P. Delta 124 T. G. 4.40 W/W W/W 1.150 1115 59 16 138.3

Precision 147 231 3.00 W/W W/W 1.090 794 25 7 116.7 3.63

Precision 147 231 3.00 W/W W/W 1.090 812 42 11 119.4

Precision 147 231 3.00 Mix W/W 1.110 0.0 1.80

Precision 147 231 3.20 W/W W/W 1.090 835 30 10 122.7 2.63

Precision 147 231 3.20 W/W W/W 1.090 850 35 11 125.0

Precision 147 231 3.20 Mix W/W 1.110 0.0 2.50

Precision 147 231 3.20 Mix W/W 1.110 0.0 2.40

Precision 147 231 3.40 W/W W/W 1.090 862 14 5 126.7 3.63

Precision 147 231 3.40 W/W W/W 1.090 880 38 12 129.4

Precision 147 231 3.40 Mix W/W 1.110 0.0 1.60

Precision 147 231 3.40 Mix W/W 1.110 0.0 2.00

Precision 147 231 3.40 Mix W/W 2.110 0.0 2.37

Precision 147 231 3.60 W/W W/W 1.090 901 56 15 132.4 3.13

Precision 147 231 3.60 W/W W/W 1.090 922 31 11 135.5

Precision 147 A. S. 3.40 W/W Ind. 1.087 895 30 10 131.6

Precision 147 A. S. 3.40 W/W Ind. 1.087 908 24 9 133.5

Precision 147 A. S. 3.40 W/W Ind. 1.087 890 37 11 130.8

Precision 147 A. S. 3.50 W/W Mix 1.150 941 48 15 138.3 3.88

Precision 147 A. S. 3.50 W/W Mix 1.150 905 31 9 133.0 4.13

Precision 147 A. S. 3.70 W/W Mix 1.150 972 33 10 142.9 3.75

Precision 147 A. S. 3.70 W/W Mix 1.150 937 24 8 137.7 4.25

Precision 147 A. S. 3.90 W/W Mix 1.150 1003 29 10 147.4 4.25

Precision 147 A. S. 3.90 W/W Mix 1.150 957 33 10 140.7 5.13

Precision 147 N320 2.80 W/W W/W 1.090 810 26 8 119.1 2.38

Precision 147 N320 3.00 W/W W/W 1.090 852 24 6 125.2 2.50

Precision 147 N320 3.20 W/W W/W 1.090 889 28 8 130.7 3.75

Precision 147 N320 3.30 W/W Mix 1.150 896 48 12 131.7 5.38

Precision 147 N320 3.30 W/W Mix 1.150 851 33 10 125.1 5.18

Precision 147 N320 3.40 W/W W/W 1.090 922 23 8 135.5

Precision 147 N320 3.50 W/W Mix 1.150 931 40 10 136.9 4.50

Precision 147 N320 3.50 W/W Mix 1.150 892 33 10 131.1 7.00

Precision 147 N320 3.70 W/W Mix 1.150 960 15 4 141.1 4.38

Precision 147 N320 3.70 W/W Mix 1.150 916 35 11 134.7 5.75

Precision 147 N320 3.90 W/W Mix 1.150 1006 49 15 147.9 4.00

Precision 147 N320 3.90 W/W Mix 1.150 966 41 13 142.0 4.37

Precision 147 N320 W/W W/W 1.090 789 28 9 116.0

Precision 147 N320 W/W W/W 1.090 842 36 11 123.8

Precision 147 N320 W/W W/W 1.090 859 15 5 126.3

Precision 147 N320 W/W W/W 1.090 893 11 6 131.3

Precision 147 N330 3.50 W/W Mix 1.150 883 64 17 129.8 2.52

Precision 147 N330 3.70 W/W Mix 1.150 918 33 11 134.9 3.16

Precision 147 N330 3.90 W/W Mix 1.150 963 29 8 141.6 4.50

Sierra 125 A. S. 4.6 Sierra recommended load, 3.5-5.0

Valiant 145 WST 3.70 W/W 1.150 131.0

Valiant 145 WST 3.70 W/W 1.150 942 33 10 136.6 3.86

xtp 124 T. G. 4.10 W/W 1.120 1-1.5

Zero 147 231 3.60 W/W 1.150 889 27 7.8 130.7

Zero 147 N320 3.20 W/W 1.150 844 22 7 124.1

Zero 147 N320 3.40 W/W 1.150 889 26 8 130.7

Zero 147 N320 3.60 W/W mixed 1.125 921 48 13 135.4 1.57

Zero 147 N320 3.60 W/W mixed 1.125 931 27 9 136.9 3.74

Zero 147 N320 3.60 W/W 1.150 932 15 4 137.0

Zero 147 N320 3.80 W/W 1.150 962 21 6 141.4

Zero 147 N320 4.20 W/W 1.150 1035 26 9 152.1 2.40

Zero 147 T.G. 3.60 W/W W/W 1.150 954 74 22 140.2 2.13

Zero 147 T.G. 3.60 W/W W/W 1.150 921 24 7 135.4 0.59

Zero 147 T.G. 3.60 W/W W/W 1.150 921 135.4 1.30