aneyokly Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 i'm having a premonition that the is a 40 yd classifier coming up in the future. being a new shooter can anybody give advice or direct me to a thread on how to shoot long yardage? i have a GLOCK 19 thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 I've recently begun practicing on long range steel. The immediate feedback confirms what I did right or wrong and helps my body remember how to be accurate at those ranges. I've been using a 8 or 10 inch plate at 60-75 yds. After that gets dialed in, 40 yds is CAKE. Good luck. SA BTW, at these ranges it's ALL about trigger control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Moore Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 here are three simple things you can do; watch your sights, watch your sights, and watch your sights. this is the only way to shot long distance. benos' book would give that kind of a shot a type 4 or 5. i shoot ppc as well as ipsc and ppc is all about watching your sights. let the rear sight get a little blury and the target is more blury, but the front sight needs to be in perfect focus. if you peak over the top of the sight to look at the target the shot will to hit were you intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 and...if you feel like it takes forever for you to finally break the shot...Brian has an answer to that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Limited40 is right. I shot PPC for years, double action only revolver. I even made Master. Along with sight alignment is fire control and follow through. Not only do you need to align your sights, you must break the shot without disturbing the alignment, then call the shot and follow through. If you truely call the shot, follow through will probably be there. Sight alignment means nothing if you jerk the trigger, blink, and flinch. I wouldn't get too worked up over a long yardage standard. This sport isn't about driving tacks. By all means work on your accuracy at all times and never lose sight (no pun intended) of the value of precision. But as a new shooter, your time could be better spent working on precision and speed at a much closer distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Ron, I agree with you, but it is good to periodically test yourself on some long range stuff. My shooting pardner and I used to routinely set up some 1/3rd size poppers at 100 yds just to practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 long range shots is really what separated the men from the boys at IPSC WSXIII. There were field courses there with 35 m+/half classic targets, as well as 20m/half targets/strong hand, 40 m poppers and 50m full (classic) targets. i) To make those shots and not miss and ii) to make them in good time was crucial for the prospective top finishers. --Detlef (Edited by Detlef at 11:40 am on Oct. 2, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 http://www.brianenos.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard...=5&topic=70 Doing this drill or a variation of it may help you learn what you need to see to make those longer range shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Tightgroup: Yep a guy or gal does need to keep up on the precision stuff. It seems like USPSA is so caught up with the close and fast that precision isn't even in the equation. Now that I think about it, limiting one's shooting to the close and fast is a good way to watch the fundamentals erode. BTW, I can't even see a mini-popper at a hundred yards. Time for new glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phred Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 Ron, It does seem that a large proportion of shooting in IPSC is of the run’n/gun’n ilk and that surely can erode precision skills if one doesn’t watch out. Heck, it’s darn hard for me to find IPSC facilities that can accommodate shooting distances over 25m full stop. Aney did mention that she (my apologies if I got that wrong) is a new shooter and, depending on how new, IMHO the first place to start work on the fundamentals is at 5/7m. If you can’t shoot tight groups at short distances then the fundamentals aren’t there to shoot at long distances. Another perspective - BE stated in the Matt Burkett interview that he likes to start his students out on the bench rest. If they can’t shoot at the inherent accuracy of the gun then fundamentals need work. Cheers, Phred (Edited by Phred at 7:17 pm on Oct. 2, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneyokly Posted October 3, 2002 Author Share Posted October 3, 2002 Thanks for all the suggestions. first picked up a pistol 3mos. ago ,have been making progress on tight groupings at 15 yds. so i felt overly ambitious to keep up with the rest of the shooters at the meets. pressure's off,i'll advance at my own pace. (Edited by aneyokly at 10:32 pm on Oct. 2, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 Since when do new shooters get to start threads up here on the "Big Board"? 3QT and I are still banished to the newbie and frivolous forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneyokly Posted October 4, 2002 Author Share Posted October 4, 2002 Call it naivete and blind luck I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheBlack Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 We did a 40 yard prone last month. The correct prone position is weird, but now that I've tried it I like it, and it will give you the knowledge you need to elevate the sights correctly and practice the sight picture. On the first time around I used a rifle shooting position, with my body pointed down range. I shot a group, low left. The second time I used the correct posture, with my body lying across the range (not downrange) and my right arm approximately perpendicular to my body, with my strong side foot pulled back and wrapped around behind my other leg, so my strong side knee was on the ground forming a sort of tripod support - knee, other leg/hips, arms. The six shots were still low but in a horizontal line. The recoil was weird; straight up and down and I had to wait for the vibrations to stop before taking another shot. Strange to see the front sight vibrating up & down. Now I know that I'll need to aim shoulder high to hit COM with that load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 aneyokly, Have you seen this link in my main site? http://www.brianenos.com/pages/words.html#expanded Sroll down to "Call to Followthrough." Especially with a Glock - FOLLOWTHROUGH is paramount. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 InTheBlack, I've never really practice the prone position. I was wondering if you can lead me to some sites where they show the correct prone position. I'm really intrested to learn this "new" thing. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheBlack Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Sorry, one of the course designers showed us the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 You think maybe he was having fun with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Quote: from aneyokly on 8:56 pm on Oct. 2, 2002 Thanks for all the suggestions. first picked up a pistol 3mos. ago ,have been making progress on tight groupings at 15 yds. so i felt overly ambitious to keep up with the rest of the shooters at the meets. pressure's off,i'll advance at my own pace. (Edited by aneyokly at 10:32 pm on Oct. 2, 2002) Try to pick a drill (or make one up yourself) that forces you to shoot accurately, but is fun to shoot. Make it a challenge with another shooter, or make some kind of "impossible shot" We used to shoot .22 rifle silouhettes (ok I can't spell it, but I can shoot 'em real good) with .22 pistols at the two closer distances (I believe 40m and 60m) Them little chickens are pretty challenging at those distances. You won't hit them every time, but you will learn alot about shooting and have some fun too. Photocopy a sheet with some dots the size of quarters on them and try to shoot one shot at each coin. See how much you can spend. Start close and move it out, the priciples are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneyokly Posted October 10, 2002 Author Share Posted October 10, 2002 be your reply is welcomed following on the heels of the match and famed classifier which i tanked.besides that,all my other shots were massively erratic ;all a's on one target missing shots on the next.the text you refered me to contains so many gems of info, i can hardly digest them.i plan to take the next few weeks before the next match, to start honing my skills and only advancing when i have achieved accuracy on the basic level.thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneyokly Posted October 10, 2002 Author Share Posted October 10, 2002 pat thanks for your drill suggestion; i love the 'fun' part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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