First shot always high?

[Chris iliff]

I shoot an STI Competitor in 38 super w/C-More . I have noticed that my first shot is always high and then the gun shoots dead on the dot every shot after the first. If I keep shooting, the gun shoots where I aim, if I take a few minutes to reload or inspect targets the gun will shoot high first shot. Is this a heating cooling problem? I am at a loss and need some help?

[BrianH]

Maybe you're not yet fully locked into you're grip before you touch the first one off....

[Scott R]

Does the first shot of the day shoot high also? Or is it possibly the first shot after letting a round cook in the warm/hot chamber while inspecting targets etc.

Edited October 19, 2007 by Scott R

[G-ManBart]

How much high is the first shot? An inch, four inches, etc?

Does the first shot of the day shoot high also? Or is it possibly the first shot after letting a round cook in the warm/hot chamber while inspecting targets etc.

There's no way to know if a round that's hot or been cooked will hit higher or lower until you test it to find out for certain...especially on a gun with a comp. Faster bullets usually hit lower (they exit the bore earlier in it's rising arc) but again, the comp issue complicates things. Unless he's using a reverse temp sensitive powder that would lower velocity as it got hotter and then it gets interesting.

[shooterbenedetto]

put it in a handgun Vise??

[EZ Bagger]

Just in case, make sure everything is tight. Those C-More's are great...until something is loose.

Otherwise, my first instinct was with Brian H.

[BPiatt]

I'm not sure I understand when you said if stot shooting a while it will do it again.

If it's always the first shot after loading, then it's the barrel fit.

Hand cycling the gun doesnt seat the barrel as if it were cycled by fireing.

If you shoot the first shot high, shoot some, leave the gun loaded and wait to cool, THEN have a high shot.... I'm at a loss.

[Steve Anderson]

Dry.

Fire.

Steve.

[mjbine]

Dry.

Fire.

Steve.

Steve knows best!

[Chris iliff]

Dry.

Fire.

Steve.

Got both of your books and "With Winning in Mind", I dry fire your drills 4-5 days a week. It's definitely not Dry Fire, but you could help me with your mental program. Does it change for different stages, or is it always 2 Alphas at your natural speed?

[Chris iliff]

Maybe you're not yet fully locked into you're grip before you touch the first one off....

I am fully in the grip and very nuetral.

[Chris iliff]

How much high is the first shot? An inch, four inches, etc?

Does the first shot of the day shoot high also? Or is it possibly the first shot after letting a round cook in the warm/hot chamber while inspecting targets etc.

There's no way to know if a round that's hot or been cooked will hit higher or lower until you test it to find out for certain...especially on a gun with a comp. Faster bullets usually hit lower (they exit the bore earlier in it's rising arc) but again, the comp issue complicates things. Unless he's using a reverse temp sensitive powder that would lower velocity as it got hotter and then it gets interesting.

First shot is 4 to 5 inches high. I use Ramshot True Blue and currently use 124 FMJ Precision Delta's with 8.8 grains of powder. You have given me some things to check and I appreciate the response and your time. Thanks and I'll let you know after some testing.

[BSeevers]

How much high is the first shot? An inch, four inches, etc?

Does the first shot of the day shoot high also? Or is it possibly the first shot after letting a round cook in the warm/hot chamber while inspecting targets etc.

There's no way to know if a round that's hot or been cooked will hit higher or lower until you test it to find out for certain...especially on a gun with a comp. Faster bullets usually hit lower (they exit the bore earlier in it's rising arc) but again, the comp issue complicates things. Unless he's using a reverse temp sensitive powder that would lower velocity as it got hotter and then it gets interesting.

First shot is 4 to 5 inches high. I use Ramshot True Blue and currently use 124 FMJ Precision Delta's with 8.8 grains of powder. You have given me some things to check and I appreciate the response and your time. Thanks and I'll let you know after some testing.

4 to 5 INCHES? At what distance?

[JThompson]

How much high is the first shot? An inch, four inches, etc?

Does the first shot of the day shoot high also? Or is it possibly the first shot after letting a round cook in the warm/hot chamber while inspecting targets etc.

There's no way to know if a round that's hot or been cooked will hit higher or lower until you test it to find out for certain...especially on a gun with a comp. Faster bullets usually hit lower (they exit the bore earlier in it's rising arc) but again, the comp issue complicates things. Unless he's using a reverse temp sensitive powder that would lower velocity as it got hotter and then it gets interesting.

First shot is 4 to 5 inches high. I use Ramshot True Blue and currently use 124 FMJ Precision Delta's with 8.8 grains of powder. You have given me some things to check and I appreciate the response and your time. Thanks and I'll let you know after some testing.

4 to 5 INCHES? At what distance?

That does sound like a ton for a first shot problem... if it does the same off a sandbag I would check to see if maybe you have some lead build up in the comp.

[Chris iliff]

How much high is the first shot? An inch, four inches, etc?

Does the first shot of the day shoot high also? Or is it possibly the first shot after letting a round cook in the warm/hot chamber while inspecting targets etc.

There's no way to know if a round that's hot or been cooked will hit higher or lower until you test it to find out for certain...especially on a gun with a comp. Faster bullets usually hit lower (they exit the bore earlier in it's rising arc) but again, the comp issue complicates things. Unless he's using a reverse temp sensitive powder that would lower velocity as it got hotter and then it gets interesting.

First shot is 4 to 5 inches high. I use Ramshot True Blue and currently use 124 FMJ Precision Delta's with 8.8 grains of powder. You have given me some things to check and I appreciate the response and your time. Thanks and I'll let you know after some testing.

4 to 5 INCHES? At what distance?

That does sound like a ton for a first shot problem... if it does the same off a sandbag I would check to see if maybe you have some lead build up in the comp.

I'm at 10 to 12 yards. My Father also suggested lead in the comp. I will know more after my practice session tomorrow thanks again! I haven't done the sandbag, but will tomorrow.

[JThompson]

How much high is the first shot? An inch, four inches, etc?

Does the first shot of the day shoot high also? Or is it possibly the first shot after letting a round cook in the warm/hot chamber while inspecting targets etc.

There's no way to know if a round that's hot or been cooked will hit higher or lower until you test it to find out for certain...especially on a gun with a comp. Faster bullets usually hit lower (they exit the bore earlier in it's rising arc) but again, the comp issue complicates things. Unless he's using a reverse temp sensitive powder that would lower velocity as it got hotter and then it gets interesting.

First shot is 4 to 5 inches high. I use Ramshot True Blue and currently use 124 FMJ Precision Delta's with 8.8 grains of powder. You have given me some things to check and I appreciate the response and your time. Thanks and I'll let you know after some testing.

4 to 5 INCHES? At what distance?

That does sound like a ton for a first shot problem... if it does the same off a sandbag I would check to see if maybe you have some lead build up in the comp.

I'm at 10 to 12 yards. My Father also suggested lead in the comp. I will know more after my practice session tomorrow thanks again! I haven't done the sandbag, but will tomorrow.

Good luck... let us know what it was...

[Chris iliff]

How much high is the first shot? An inch, four inches, etc?

Does the first shot of the day shoot high also? Or is it possibly the first shot after letting a round cook in the warm/hot chamber while inspecting targets etc.

There's no way to know if a round that's hot or been cooked will hit higher or lower until you test it to find out for certain...especially on a gun with a comp. Faster bullets usually hit lower (they exit the bore earlier in it's rising arc) but again, the comp issue complicates things. Unless he's using a reverse temp sensitive powder that would lower velocity as it got hotter and then it gets interesting.

First shot is 4 to 5 inches high. I use Ramshot True Blue and currently use 124 FMJ Precision Delta's with 8.8 grains of powder. You have given me some things to check and I appreciate the response and your time. Thanks and I'll let you know after some testing.

4 to 5 INCHES? At what distance?

That does sound like a ton for a first shot problem... if it does the same off a sandbag I would check to see if maybe you have some lead build up in the comp.

I'm at 10 to 12 yards. My Father also suggested lead in the comp. I will know more after my practice session tomorrow thanks again! I haven't done the sandbag, but will tomorrow.

Good luck... let us know what it was...

I cleaned the comp with a dremel tool and the little round ball thingy. Problem is gone. Thanks for all the help!!!!!!!. Shot an El Prez at the match today and it was the best El Prez I have ever shot. If your reading this Mr. Anderson-... THANK-YOU!!! dry fire works,..go figure huh? Took me 2 1/2 yrs to figure it out!!

[Bret Heidkamp]

High first shots can also be a barrel fit issue.

[JThompson]

How much high is the first shot? An inch, four inches, etc?

Does the first shot of the day shoot high also? Or is it possibly the first shot after letting a round cook in the warm/hot chamber while inspecting targets etc.

There's no way to know if a round that's hot or been cooked will hit higher or lower until you test it to find out for certain...especially on a gun with a comp. Faster bullets usually hit lower (they exit the bore earlier in it's rising arc) but again, the comp issue complicates things. Unless he's using a reverse temp sensitive powder that would lower velocity as it got hotter and then it gets interesting.

First shot is 4 to 5 inches high. I use Ramshot True Blue and currently use 124 FMJ Precision Delta's with 8.8 grains of powder. You have given me some things to check and I appreciate the response and your time. Thanks and I'll let you know after some testing.

4 to 5 INCHES? At what distance?

That does sound like a ton for a first shot problem... if it does the same off a sandbag I would check to see if maybe you have some lead build up in the comp.

I'm at 10 to 12 yards. My Father also suggested lead in the comp. I will know more after my practice session tomorrow thanks again! I haven't done the sandbag, but will tomorrow.

Good luck... let us know what it was...

I cleaned the comp with a dremel tool and the little round ball thingy. Problem is gone. Thanks for all the help!!!!!!!. Shot an El Prez at the match today and it was the best El Prez I have ever shot. If your reading this Mr. Anderson-... THANK-YOU!!! dry fire works,..go figure huh? Took me 2 1/2 yrs to figure it out!!

Glad to hear it worked out for you. It's nice to know I helped. Congrats on the Prez. I just remembered this thread and went looking to see if you got it fixed.

Edited November 14, 2007 by JThompson