outerlimits Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 in using various ballistic programs, i'm stumped about the drag (or g) function. there can be a significant difference in the result based on the "G" function. so, how do you determine that? some companys actually post that info, but others only the ballistic coefficient. any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Most mfgr. data is G1 drag modeled and is correct for a flat based projectile only. If the bullet in question is a boat tail profile, then the G5 drag coefficient is the correct one to use. The upshot is that a boat tail bullet trajectory calculated with G1 drag modeling will be slightly optimistic. G5 lowers the BC a little bit comparatively. Here is an example from the ballistics program I use which will actually convert on the fly for you (RSI Shooting Labs, Mac or PC): .223 SMK 77 Published Mfgr G1 BC = 0.362 Same BC corrected for G5 drag model = 0.227 In the field, the G5 BC model has provided first shot hits at 500+ yards when using boat tail projectiles, whereas the G1 data has not given me similar results when used with boat tails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GunF1Guy Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Here is a great article about BC. http://www.shootingsoftware.com/coefficients.htm I use the RSI software and put the bullet specs (length, weight, length of nose, base diameter), into the software and it always give me more accurate tables than anything else. What the table says is always what ends up on paper when shot. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Neill Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Generally, all factory bullet BC data is based on the G1 model, regardless of the actual bullet configuration. Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted June 26, 2006 Author Share Posted June 26, 2006 i think what guy says is true. i've been playing with some nosler ballistic tips, which are boat tail and using the BC of .267, the trajectory mapping using G5 is not reality-it is much closer to G1 drag function, at least that's what the trip to the range shows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Hmmmm! I use Shooting Labs to convert the Mfg. G1 BC to G5 and then enter that result to get my drop tables. They play out right on the money for me. I have gotten elevation solutions that have yielded 1st round hits at out to 800 yards this way. The G1 based solutions were all way too optimistic and hit the dirt early ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 I used Nosler's provided # for their 77, and calculated trajectories with G1. On paper, it put them exactly where the software said they'd be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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