TBF Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Trying to find RA9TA 127 Gr. +P+ 9MM ammo. Any clues ? THANKS ! Travis F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Might try this fella. I hear good things but have no experience in buying from him. http://mahsupplies.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 (edited) Winchester Ranger is intended (and marketed) for sale to the Law Enforcement market. They try pretty hard to keep those products in that channel and out of the commercial (read civilian) market. Having said all that, check out "Police Supply" or "Public Safety" stores in your area and related websites. ETA: Biggest reason it is not available to the commercial market is that Ranger is an FET out product. No Federal Excise Tax is paid by Olin on goods sold to the LE market. Hold off on the Black Helio theorys... Edited May 2, 2006 by Middle Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpolans Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Any reason in particular you're looking for this type of ammo for your open gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Any reason in particular you're looking for this type of ammo for your open gun? My guess; because it is factory loaded 9mm ammo that reportedly makes Major PF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hostetter Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Try Dooleys Enterprizes in Tustin California, that's where I get mine. They have a website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I hope it makes major in your gun. It didn't in mine. I'm running a 5.4" barrel with no holes. I heard good things about it and was a little disapointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 it made major in my 5.1 inch trubore...and in my glock but was minor in another shooters pistol which is almost identical to mine.. the ultramax ammo LE catalog had the best price ive seen...like 137.00 for 500 rounds and no shipping to your agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Be careful with this stuff. We were running it out of an MP5-SD. The round was high enough pressure that the case flowed into the chamber flutes. Made some cool ridges on the out side of the case, but that can't be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Chuck, Do you think the back pressure from the suppressor and the aggressive fluting in the MP5 had a lot to do with it? I know in talking to some suppressor folks they state that pressure buildup can become a problem. I have shot some of this in my open gun and from looking at the brass and primers, it looks no worse than my normal load. Take care, Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 I'm sure it has a lot to do with the suppressor. The can maintains the pressure in the barrel a bit longer. I don't know that a comp wouldn't do something similar. I know that we don't have any problem with the 147 gr winchesters out of the same gun at over 150 Pf. Just a suggestion to get some to test before ordering them by the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston in Austin Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Back in the last decade, I had an H&K 94, semi-auto mp5. I locked it up using Hornady 147 xtp factory ammo. The brass formed to the fluted chamber and had to be beaten out of the gun. I would be wary of shooting any +p or +p+ ammo in any gun with a fluted chamber. Huston in Austin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 (edited) Be careful with this stuff. We were running it out of an MP5-SD. The round was high enough pressure that the case flowed into the chamber flutes.... I know that we don't have any problem with the 147 gr winchesters out of the same gun at over 150 Pf. A word of caution: you might check with H&K about what ammo they do and don't recommend in the MP5-SD. Everyone I've ever talked to that owns an SD has told me that they are not intended to be shot with anything over 124 gr. Something to do with the locking piece that is specific to the SD. You are probably getting similar results by shooting +P+ ammo in that gun. Remember, that gun was designed to fire standard pressure 115 & 124 gr. bullets and slow them to below the speed of sound. Ask around at subguns.com or similar places. Just out of curiosity, was the ported SD barrel able to keep the +P+ ammo subsonic? Edited June 18, 2006 by Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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