Religious Shooter Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 From other threads here I guess you can 1) take off a vertical foregrip (VF) at will in Limited/Tactical and 2) use a VF as a monopod. Can anybody recommend a VF that can be used as a good monopod? It would be ideal (for me) that the height that the VF lifts the gun would correspond to the height a 30 rounder with an Arredondo basepad lifts a gun. I primarily want to use it to monopod when using a Beta-C. Also I want to experiment in using it on barricades (putting the upside-down L against the top of a barricade). So it should also be sturdy enough to get smacked against a barricade multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 (edited) RS, That would be a very long VFG! I'm not sure I've seen one that long. On a different note, I recently saw a VFG that has a retractible bi-pod built into it. Of course, that would take you out of Tactical/Limited and put you in Open in many 3 gun matches. See it here Edited December 15, 2005 by chp5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 RS, Like CHP5 stated, I don't think you're going to find a VF that is long enough to monopod the rifle with Arrendondo's + 30 rounders. If you're looking to monopod, I would take the Arrendondo's off my mags. Just about any VF will work, it's more of a preference choice as to which companies VF feels good in your hand. When I choose to monopod off the VF, I usually choke up on the VF. Generally, the top two fingers of my support hand are on the VF. This technique allows me to adjust the elevation of the muzzle as needed. PM me and I'll give you some alternative suggestions for bracing on a barricade. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 On a different note, I recently saw a VFG that has a retractible bi-pod built into it. Of course, that would take you out of Tactical/Limited and put you in Open in many 3 gun matches. See it here That's a cool VF. Unlike the websites for other VF's (go figure...) this one actually lists its height --- 5.75". I measured from my handguard to the tip of an attached 30 rounder with the Arredondo basepad and got ~6.75". A plain 30 rounder is ~6.25". Depending on the rail I use, if I use a QD attachment (ARMS), use one of those Yankee Hill risers I can get at least close to a plain 30-rounder's height. But @ $160.00 delivered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I can't recomend a VFG for anything but I would like to thank Eric and Relig. for pointing out a bit of a annomaly in the rules. If I am doing the RM3-G this year for rules and scoring I think I will clean that up a little bit. If it is on at the start it has to be on at the finish ( first day of the match, last day of the match ) this would include "rings", lighting devices, and VFG. KURTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Kurt, Don't forget to add bi-pods and attached wooden blocks on your beta C's to that list! Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I knew that if I stirred, the cream would rize to the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I think Doc Johnson makes a good vertical grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted December 17, 2005 Author Share Posted December 17, 2005 If I am doing the RM3-G this year for rules and scoring I think I will clean that up a little bit. If you get to do that could you limit Tactical/Limited to 30 round magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted December 17, 2005 Author Share Posted December 17, 2005 Don't forget to add bi-pods and attached wooden blocks on your beta C's to that list! There you go! Wooden block on a Beta-C. No rules in IMGA and USPSA against that right? Velcro and a shaped wooden block... here I come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 If I am doing the RM3-G this year for rules and scoring I think I will clean that up a little bit. If you get to do that could you limit Tactical/Limited to 30 round magazines. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 As a benevolent dictator, I know what is good for you I will not religate those in my relm to the drugery of just 30 rounds. If I were to limit any capacity it would be to 20 so Mini-14s could play as well, but since those upstats from accross the sea made that horrible magazine for the AR-18 and those darn Germans made the H&K 93 magazine hold more than 30 I can't limit AMERICANS to less!!!!! Besides as we grow older and rounder a 40 rounder makes a better mono-pod as it is higher .........BUT I don't know if I am going to do it KURTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.45 Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 but since those upstarts from accross the sea made that horrible magazine for the AR-18 Sometimes words can really hurt a guy.... It was ours before yours remember !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 One could easily fabricate a plug that threads into the bottom of a Knight's or Falcon industries vertical grip to make it longer. AFAIK there aren't any rules about carrying a rucksack with you to the firing postion dropping it and using it as support for your rifle. Some long range stages that could be worth the hassle if you're shooting multiple targets from a single position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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