pewpewdp Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) I’m actually selling a heavily upgraded version SAR K12 Sport on GunBroker right now: My intention in sharing this is honestly not about selling it but capturing for posterity what upgrades work and which don’t, along with links to all the items. This has been a fun / crazy journey and want to give back to the community.First: a special shout out to Henning Wallgren (of Henning Group) who patiently helped me at various points on this journey, and who actually has a SAR K12 and could test fit certain items (rather than just guess).Main Points (I go into more detail later): Most (not all) internal parts for the Tanfoglio Small Frame will work Henning Group and Patriot Defense are a great source of upgrades for Tanfoglio I’ve been told that it’s most similar to a Tanfoglio Witness Elite Limited, but I can’t confirm that Magazines: takes standard CZ 75 magazines Rear sight: EAA SUPER SIGHT (LPA/Bomar style) Front sight: some weird Tanfo-specific thing (you’ll be surprised which Dawson front sight actually works… see below) What DIDN’T work (so you learn from my mistakes) Henning Base pads on OEM SAR K12 mags Issue: They will slide on but they will just pop right off when they hit the ground. Easy solution: just buy regular Mec-Gar CZ75 mags and put the same Henning Base pads on those. They work perfectly. Henning extended firing pin (H051-TL X-Long Firing Pin for Tanfoglio, HENNING GROUP - X-Long Firing Pin for Tanfoglio) Issue: It would have required modification for both length and taper Easy solution: Patriot Defense has one that just drops in RedX Gear holster Issue: really tight fit, and terrible customer service (that’s a whole saga in itself) Easy solution: modify it or buy a different one (perhaps there are more options now?) What DID work (so you learn from my successes)INTERNALS Henning Group (I ended up with a 2.4 lb trigger) Flat Trigger System: HENNING GROUP - Flat Trigger System for Tanfoglio Wolff Hammer Spring - 14lb: HENNING GROUP - Wolff Hammer Spring for Tanfoglio EGW Prepped Hammer: HENNING GROUP - EGW Prepped Hammer for Tanfoglio EGW Prepped Sear: HENNING GROUP - EGW Prepped Sear for Tanfoglio Patriot Defense Patriot Defense Optimized Firing Pin Spring: Patriot Defense | Tanfoglio Optimized Firing Pin Spring Patriot Defense Extra Power Extractor Spring: Patriot Defense | Tanfoglio/CZ Extra Power Extractor Spring Tanfoglio Extractor (11.1): Tanfoglio | Witness Extractor (11.1) (301738) Tanfoglio Extractor Pin: Tanfoglio | Witness Extractor Pin (11.2) (301739) Tanfoglio Firing Pin - Extended: Patriot Defense | Tanfoglio Firing Pin - Extended EXTERNALS Front Sights: after much research, turns out that a suitable replacement is for the Desert Baby Eagle Dawson Precision Desert Eagle Baby Eagle Fiber Optic Front Sights (.135" Tall x .125" Wide Ramped Serrated) 050-970: Dawson Precision Desert Eagle Baby Eagle Fiber Optic Front Sights These are the OEM fiber optic upgrades, but they are always out out of stock: Witness Standard Fiber Optic Front Sight Rear Sights: EAA SUPER SIGHT (LPA/Bomar style) OEM is an LPA TRT96TA07: LPA Ghilardi I wanted to mount a red dot, so went with EGW Red Dot Mount for Trijicon RMR / SRO, Holosun 407c / 507c Mount: Trijicon RMR / SRO, Holosun 407c / 507c Mount for EAA Super Sight LOK Grips Tanfoglio Palm Swell Bogies (select Small Frame and Short Length): Tanfoglio Palm Swell Bogies Magazines Mec-Gar CZ-75 Magazine: HENNING GROUP - Mec-Gar Magazine Henning Magazine Extension: HENNING GROUP - Henning Group Magazine Extension for CZ 75, Shadow 2 & Dan Wesson DWX Compact Henning Grams Format Follower Kit: HENNING GROUP - Henning Grams Format Follower Kit for Mec-Gar CZ-75B Small Frame magazines and H141-MC17 pad In case you’re really set on getting OEM Mags, this is where to get them: SAR-USA by SARSILMAZ Pistol Magazines FYI… I worked with a gunsmith who is also a competition shooter who understands performance and tuning. In addition to installing and fitting all of these parts, he also Chamfered outside edge of firing pin hole Polished breech face and rails Ramped and polished the feed ramp Magwell: perfect blending of removal of any edges (see photo) Overall polish and deburr Edited September 5, 2021 by ima45dv8 removed link to off-site auction per Forum Guidelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 You're new here, so please review the Forum Guidelines, conveniently located at the top of every forum page. Per those guidelines, I removed the link to your GB sale. Otherwise, thanks for sharing your experiences. -Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pewpewdp Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 Some photos of the aforementioned modified SAR K12 Sport: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny599 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Thank! Really appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsessiveshooter Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Thanks for taking the time to put this up. I has a similar journey with a SAR9 pistol. One day I'd like to play with their K2. I really think the Turkish made pistols are very, very well made - slightly better than a CZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbolling Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Thanks for all the helpful info. I recently traded into a K12 Sport and planned on doing much the same as you have. Wasn't able to find a replacement front sight so I modified the original to fit fiber optic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneupondem Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Hey thank you so much for the info helped me out a lot, I’m trying to find iwb and owb holsters for this thing, Sar k12-sport I am having a very hard time finding one… I found a owb but that’s it please help, Thank you Mike 7728019731 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganmike Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Thanks for the info on the sights for my K12. I did order +5 mag extentions from Taylor Freelance. They are the ones for a CZ 75. Work just Great and do not fall off. You can get in colors as well. does the front sight from Dawson work with the stock rear sight? Thanks Much Michigan Mike Please respond to my e-mail address Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeAZ Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Watching.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny808 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Have you found a threaded barre for the K12? I have everything I need except that to turn it into and Open division USPSA gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteT Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) I picked one up today and compared it to my CZ Shadow 2 and found the CZ factory mags will lock in but not hold the slide open when empty, with my MEC-GAR mag not even locking in at all even though it works fine in the CZ. The K12 mags seem to function fine in the CZ. Edited August 11, 2022 by PeteT Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micstep Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 They do offer a threaded barrel. $159.00 Sars K12 threaded barrel with comp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeAZ Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbq Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Can not remove rear sight. Will not budge, Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThaiJJ Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 This is really cool, I was temped to try one out. How does it compare to a Tanfo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThaiJJ Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Some thoughts just occurred to me, are their slides or barrels compatible with either Tanfoglio or CZ frames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChef1 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Can you swap the mag release to the other side on these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChef1 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 9/5/2021 at 12:29 PM, pewpewdp said: I’m actually selling a heavily upgraded version SAR K12 Sport on GunBroker right now: My intention in sharing this is honestly not about selling it but capturing for posterity what upgrades work and which don’t, along with links to all the items. This has been a fun / crazy journey and want to give back to the community. First: a special shout out to Henning Wallgren (of Henning Group) who patiently helped me at various points on this journey, and who actually has a SAR K12 and could test fit certain items (rather than just guess). Main Points (I go into more detail later): Most (not all) internal parts for the Tanfoglio Small Frame will work Henning Group and Patriot Defense are a great source of upgrades for Tanfoglio I’ve been told that it’s most similar to a Tanfoglio Witness Elite Limited, but I can’t confirm that Magazines: takes standard CZ 75 magazines Rear sight: EAA SUPER SIGHT (LPA/Bomar style) Front sight: some weird Tanfo-specific thing (you’ll be surprised which Dawson front sight actually works… see below) What DIDN’T work (so you learn from my mistakes) Henning Base pads on OEM SAR K12 mags Issue: They will slide on but they will just pop right off when they hit the ground. Easy solution: just buy regular Mec-Gar CZ75 mags and put the same Henning Base pads on those. They work perfectly. Henning extended firing pin (H051-TL X-Long Firing Pin for Tanfoglio, HENNING GROUP - X-Long Firing Pin for Tanfoglio) Issue: It would have required modification for both length and taper Easy solution: Patriot Defense has one that just drops in RedX Gear holster Issue: really tight fit, and terrible customer service (that’s a whole saga in itself) Easy solution: modify it or buy a different one (perhaps there are more options now?) What DID work (so you learn from my successes) INTERNALS Henning Group (I ended up with a 2.4 lb trigger) Flat Trigger System: HENNING GROUP - Flat Trigger System for Tanfoglio Wolff Hammer Spring - 14lb: HENNING GROUP - Wolff Hammer Spring for Tanfoglio EGW Prepped Hammer: HENNING GROUP - EGW Prepped Hammer for Tanfoglio EGW Prepped Sear: HENNING GROUP - EGW Prepped Sear for Tanfoglio Patriot Defense Patriot Defense Optimized Firing Pin Spring: Patriot Defense | Tanfoglio Optimized Firing Pin Spring Patriot Defense Extra Power Extractor Spring: Patriot Defense | Tanfoglio/CZ Extra Power Extractor Spring Tanfoglio Extractor (11.1): Tanfoglio | Witness Extractor (11.1) (301738) Tanfoglio Extractor Pin: Tanfoglio | Witness Extractor Pin (11.2) (301739) Tanfoglio Firing Pin - Extended: Patriot Defense | Tanfoglio Firing Pin - Extended EXTERNALS Front Sights: after much research, turns out that a suitable replacement is for the Desert Baby Eagle Dawson Precision Desert Eagle Baby Eagle Fiber Optic Front Sights (.135" Tall x .125" Wide Ramped Serrated) 050-970: Dawson Precision Desert Eagle Baby Eagle Fiber Optic Front Sights These are the OEM fiber optic upgrades, but they are always out out of stock: Witness Standard Fiber Optic Front Sight Rear Sights: EAA SUPER SIGHT (LPA/Bomar style) OEM is an LPA TRT96TA07: LPA Ghilardi I wanted to mount a red dot, so went with EGW Red Dot Mount for Trijicon RMR / SRO, Holosun 407c / 507c Mount: Trijicon RMR / SRO, Holosun 407c / 507c Mount for EAA Super Sight LOK Grips Tanfoglio Palm Swell Bogies (select Small Frame and Short Length): Tanfoglio Palm Swell Bogies Magazines Mec-Gar CZ-75 Magazine: HENNING GROUP - Mec-Gar Magazine Henning Magazine Extension: HENNING GROUP - Henning Group Magazine Extension for CZ 75, Shadow 2 & Dan Wesson DWX Compact Henning Grams Format Follower Kit: HENNING GROUP - Henning Grams Format Follower Kit for Mec-Gar CZ-75B Small Frame magazines and H141-MC17 pad In case you’re really set on getting OEM Mags, this is where to get them: SAR-USA by SARSILMAZ Pistol Magazines FYI… I worked with a gunsmith who is also a competition shooter who understands performance and tuning. In addition to installing and fitting all of these parts, he also Chamfered outside edge of firing pin hole Polished breech face and rails Ramped and polished the feed ramp Magwell: perfect blending of removal of any edges (see photo) Overall polish and deburr Hey Man, I know its a pretty old post but do you have the part number for the extended firing pin? That link doesnt work anymore and I ordered a Tanfo small frame firing pin but it doesnt fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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