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I've been looking for.38 Super factory loads for my new blaster, to get me by until I get set up to reload. I went to the manufacturer's website and tried to find bullet weight and velocity, to calculate USPSA Power Factors.

I found only two Corbon loads and one Georgia Ammunition load that make Major.

Any additional information would be appreciated.

Info is listed as follows:

Manufacturer

Designation and/or description

Website

Bullet weight and velocity

USPSA Power Factor

Aguila

http://www.aguilaammo.com/centerfire.pdf

130 grains at 1220 fps

158.60 PF

American Ammunition

A38SUP111

http://www.a-merc.com/cgi-local/webcat/pro...m=12&reset=1359

115 grains at 1185 fps

136.28 PF

Armscor

Sells 38 Super but no ballistics info at http://www.armscor.net/Ammunition.htm

CCI/Speer

no 38 Super ammo listed on website

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/default.asp?menu=1&s1=4&s2=9

Corbon

SD38X115/20-38SUPER +P, JHP (Self Defense)

http://www.corbon.com/users/corbon/catalog...29db&Vl=39&Tp=2

115 grains at 1450 fps

166.75 PF

Corbon

PM38X140PM-38 Super Performance Match FMJ

http://www.corbon.com/users/corbon/catalog...f9f09&Vl=5&Tp=2

140 grains at 950 fps

133.00 PF

Corbon

SD38X125/20-38SUPER +P JHP (Self Defense)

http://www.corbon.com/users/corbon/catalog...29db&Vl=39&Tp=2

125 grains at 1350 fps

168.75 PF

Federal

American Eagle Handgun, AE38S1

http://www.federalcartridge.com/ammo40/bal...0&bulletwgt=130

130 grains at 1200 fps

156.00 PF

Georgia Arms

38 Super Gold Dot, G38SA Hollow Point

http://www.georgia-arms.com/shear.htm

147 grains at 1200 fps

176.40 PF

Glaser

Blue Safety Slug

http://www.corbon.com/users/corbon/catalog...59c91&Vl=7&Tp=2

80 grains at 1700 fps

136.00 PF

Glaser

Blue Safety Slug

not listed on mfgr website, but found on Cheaperthandirt.com

80 grains at 1600 fps

128.00 PF

Hornady

no 38 Super ammo listed on website

http://www.hornady.com/shop/?page=shop/bro...6d61cf49e3223a4

Magsafe

no 38 Super ammo listed on website http://yp.bellsouth.com/sites/magsafeammo/page3.html

Magtech

FMJ

no 38 Super ammo listed on website but Sportsman's Guide has it

http://www.magtechammunition.com/html/pistalbal.html

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=148168

130 grains at 1215 fps

157.95 PF

Master Cartridge

no 38 Super ammo listed on website http://ableammo.com/catalog/default.php?manufacturers_id=96

Norma

no 38 Super ammo listed on website

http://www.norma.cc/sida/eng/index.html

PMC

38SA, +P FMJ

http://www.pmcammo.com/ballistics/handgun_...superauto+p.php

130 grains at 1090 fps

141.70 PF

PMC

38SB, JHP

115 grains at 1120 fps

128.80 PF

Remington

no 38 Super ammo listed on website

http://www.remington.com/products/ammuniti...n/remington.asp

Remington UMC

+P

http://www.remington.com/products/ammuniti...umc_handgun.asp

Velocity from http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/...leitemid=619038

130 grains at 1215 fps

157.95 PF

Sellier & Bellot

no 38 Super ammo listed on website

http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/pistol-and-re...on.php?view=all

Winchester

X38ASHP; +P; Silvertip® Hollow Point

http://www.winchester.com/products/catalog...XV0b21hdGljICst

125 grains at 1240 fps

155.00 PF

Winchester

Q4205;+P Full Metal Jacket

http://www.winchester.com/products/catalog...XV0b21hdGljICst

130 grains at 1215 fps

157.95 PF

Wolf

no 38 Super ammo listed on website http://www.wolfammo.com/1_pistol.htm

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This may come as a surprise, but open shooters rarely, if ever meet SAAMI spec with there ammo. Most of us are way above "max load". When I read your post I was surprised anyone besides Corbon made major.

You migh try finding a local commercial reloader to load some ammo to your spec. Just make sure they follow you receipt. If you have a local shooter with the reloading gear you need, ask a shooting buddy to lend you a hand and get you started. There is a guy in Oregon that will load super to major and sell the ammo, I just can't remember his name....maybe one of your local shooters will remember and post the info for you.

Shoot well,

Ktyler

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I knew most reloaders were loading a lot hotter than SAAMI. I found out how much hotter when I found a box of factory stuff, I think PMC, and calculated the power factor at around 130. I know virtually all Open shooters make Major, so that means they have to be loading about 25% hotter than this load.

Looking at the barrel made me feel a lot better about this. The outer diameter is similar to a .45 barrel, and with a smaller inner diameter, the barrel looks like it can handle a lot of pressure.

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I too am surprised that anything but the Corbon +P+ round actually made major. My experiences with factory .38 stupor fodder way back when I first got into a sooper were that it was 150ish pf stuff at the hottest and that was that.

IIRC the original factory loading for the .38 Super when it was introduced back in the 1930's was a 130 FMJ at around 1300fps for a 169 PF. What happened here? When did the Stupor replace the Super?

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Atlanta Arms and ammo makes a 38 Super round that makes major. I was told that they make Max's ammo for him.

They custom-load Max and Travis' ammo to the Army's specs. It's not an off-the-shelf retail item, though it is possible get in on that production run if you talk to them at the right time and order enough.

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Atlanta Arms and ammo makes a 38 Super round that makes major. I was told that they make Max's ammo for him.

They custom-load Max and Travis' ammo to the Army's specs. It's not an off-the-shelf retail item, though it is possible get in on that production run if you talk to them at the right time and order enough.

Actually that isn't correct. The only difference between what Max shoots an what you can buy dircetly from AAA is the actual bullet (IIRC the off the shelf is round nosed and Max's is flat nosed) and that came straight from Danny Weisner's mouth. The difference for the reason is that your average shooter doesn't want to pay that extra couple of dollars for the difference in the bullet for very little return on the end result. Having said all that it still doesn't change the fact that AAA sells a 38Super round that makes major.

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I shot some Armscor 38 Super IPSC 130's and they made a 163pf out of my gun with a schueman 4 port hybrid with 2 addtional holes in the sides of the barrel. I'm sure they would make major out of an unported 5" gun.

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Atlanta Arms and ammo makes a 38 Super round that makes major. I was told that they make Max's ammo for him.

I just got 4K rounds of AAA 38 super comp. It shotos great and I like it. However, in my Bedell hybrid comp it DOES NOT MAKE MAJOR. Three popple holes and a Bedel comp. It was close at a PF of 162 but not enough for major. I am going to use it for practice and either get him to load my next ones hotter or just load my own.

Steven

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contact ivan at armscor, tell them that kenneth hicks sent ya.

as far as pressure and making major, you can make major with some powders within SAAMI spec with the super.

accurate arms number seven is probably one of them

VV N105 and 3n38 will also do it.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/...leitemid=614778

this made major easy 10 shots avged 1464 fps for 181 power factor..but this is 50Kpsi ammo.

It works in my super...despite the different case dimensions.

but in your quest to find major factory ammo, you would be better served by buying a set of dies and some brass and start loading your own. if your worried about pressure, Accurate arms number seven is a nice safe powder(though not the cleanest)

10.5 grains and a 124grain Montana Gold JHP at 1.250" OAL, federal primer and remington 38 super brass makes a nice load..

If you would like more 38 super loads that make major with easy to get(non VihtaVhouri) powders, send me an Email.

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