1911jerry Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 I was given a recipe for a Hornady 230 bullet, tmj round nose: 4.2 grains of Clays 469 crimp 1.275 OAL Win primer Anybody use this? I can't find where you would use Clays on this heavy of a bullet. Any comments if this is safe or not? Thanks Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Jones Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Jerry, Not sure about the length, but we've shot a zillion or so lead 255's with Clays, using 3.3 grs., so your load sounds about right, given that it's lighter and jacketed. Never had any problems with Clays in a 45, and shot from 185's thru 255's. Always pretty soft and very clean. I don't think I ever let a 45 round exceed 1.260, but if you can load them in your mag and your gun eats them OK, try it. Rich (and no, I'm not going back to Clays in a 40) in VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gun Geek Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 (edited) My Hogdon manual says 4.0 is the max for a 230gn jacketed bullet. If you want to try that recipie start much lower (3.8) and work up, look for pressure signs. If you are going to push the limit, load the round as long as will reliably work in your pistol - this will give you a littel more space to keep the pressure from going nuts. Edited October 8, 2005 by Gun Geek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Jones Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 OAL of 1.275 seems a bit long to me. I load 230 FMJ to 1.250 and I believe the max length is stated as 1.260. The load is a bit hot also. I usually load the same 230 FMJ with 3.9 of Clays to make 169 PF. I have loaded up to 4.0 grains before and they made almost 174 PF. Using a lead bullet, I back off .2 grains to get the same PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 From using that load for 12 years now with godknowshowmanytimes I have reloaded it brass you should be fine. I run 4.0 with a 230LRN OAL 1.245-1.250....makes 171PF in my 625, so it definitely makes major in my auto. In my experience adding.02gr with a Jacketed bullet should put you spot on. DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico567 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 I'm using the Rainier 230 gr plated RN, 4.3 Clays, and a CCI 300 in R-P cases, OAL 1.260. This load is .3 grain over what Hodgdon says is max, but it's actually pretty mild to shoot & I've seen no pressure signs. I've read that the plated bullets like I'm using take powder charges that are more in the range for lead bullets, so if you're shooting a Hornady jacketed 230 gr, YMMV. Haven't put them on the chrono yet, so I can't give you a velocity.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Are these FMJ's actually TMJs or are the CMJs? Real question is: Do they have a "jacket" (like a FMJ) or do they have "plating" (like the ELECTROPLATED gold dots, Speer Blazer, Speer lawman, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishy Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I have been using Clays for IPSC major in 40 and 45 for over 14 years. It is the best powder I have found for 45 acp . 4.2 grs of Clays for 230 fmj Zero brand bullets makes 170pf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2299 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 (edited) FWIW I was using 4.1gr of Clays with an OAL of 0.1255 to make IPSC major(175pf) shooting MG 230gr CMJ with my Valtro. Edited October 10, 2005 by n2299 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinMike Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 FWIW, the last chrono readings I took with Clays out of my 5" Kimber were: Rainier 230gr. RN (plated) 4.0 Clays 1.260 OAL Federal Primers 769fps Precision 230gr. RNFP (moly coated) 4.0 Clays 1.235 OAL Federal Primers 790fps -Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 +1 on 4.0 grains and a rainier that is my favorite 45 load. cheap, clean, and soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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