Unloaded Start

[lndshrk]

Match required unloaded gun in closed draw, loaded mags in draw, slide down. Even if it did not make a difference on this particular stage with mandatory reload, should those with high cap mags have loaded 11 or just 10 to equal playing field?

RULE:

Be loaded to the division capacity of ten (10) rounds in the

magazine plus one (1) round in the chamber. Should division

capacity not be achievable because of lower magazine

capacity, load to maximum mechanical capacity of magazine

plus one (1) round in the chamber. Competitors must use the

same capacity magazines through out the competition

[Ted Murphy]

Mags should be IDPA capacity for the magazine.

10 rounds esp/CDP

8 rounds CDP/ESP

or whatever the max your gun will hold below that number.

That's how I read the rules, plus add to that the fact that if you did it the other way with 11 in the magazine, those without high caps would get screwed.

Ted

Edited October 3, 2005 by Ted Murphy

[freeidaho]

Seems logical to me at least,

If the gun starts with one in the chamber, then use the +1 count.

If the gun starts without one in the chamber, then use a fully charged magazine, per the rule and logic Ted just stated above.

That should keep the playing field as level as it is normally.

Ken Reed

"You are what you do, everything else is just talk."

[eerw]

I believe you would start with 10..it would really have nothing to do with leveling the playing field..the course description calls for an unloaded gun..and the division capacity of the magazine would be 10 or less.

as the rule states 10 in the magazine and one in the chamber for 10+1..if the gun is to be unloaded in the drawer with loaded mags in the drawer..then the conditionwould be 10 in the mag, 0 in the gun for 10+0

or less whatever your division or mag capacity allows..

unless I misunderstand your question..which is quite possible

Edited October 3, 2005 by eerw

[Mayonaise]

This came up in a match last year in SC. Some felt it was ok that the shooter started with 11 in a mag when the COF started with the gun unloaded. The difference is mag capacity is 10 vs gun capacity.

How many times have you seen shooters load a gun with 10 and not top off and have to remind them? Whether it's to their advantage or not.

I've made it a practice that when shooting SSP or ESP of showing the SO I'm using an 11 round standard cap mag to facilitate the initial load. Sometimes I get a blank stare in return. And the next shooter won't be asked to top off.

Sometimes I wish I had that "transition stick" to whack them on the head.

Edited October 3, 2005 by Mayonaise

[Round_Gun_Shooter]

I had no problem with the stage, loaded to the 6 round capacity and off I went:D

SO had a problem figuring how I reloaded without any light though.

Regards,