jakeb Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Hey All, As the Title reads I find myself with quite a bit of Clay Dot from shotgun shooting having most recently moved to e3 for the shotgun sports. When you are coming up with loads for 9mm or 38 Special where are you getting your starting points for loads? I've seen and heard 'It's just the same as Clays' also direct from Alliant ' They are two totally different powders and don't use Clays data'. I do own QuickLoad and have wondered how you all are getting your starting loads for any cartridges where there might now be published or readily available data for Clay Dot with certain bullets. Thanks for any insight...I would hope to burn through this bit of a supply of Clay Dot in hopes of getting to another powder that is more widely recognized with published load data. Thanks! - Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I use Clay Dot for 38 short colt revolver, .45acp in 1911s, and some in 9mm pistol loads. All of my loads were developed in my guns with a chrono. the only info I've found on Clay Dot loads is on these forums, never saw any published data from the mfg. If you don't have a chrono I'd recommend getting one and using that to work up your loads. Overall I've found Clay Dot to be slightly more forgiving than Clays when it comes to being spikey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Clay Dot uses Clays reloading data. Even Hodgdon confirms it is nearly identical. The only difference I have found it charge weight. Sometimes it's identical, and sometimes it may vary either way by 0.1gr, depending on the powder lots. Use Clays loading data with confidence. I will suggest you use your e3 if you want to approach maximum loads in 9mm. Both Clays and Clay Dot get spikey fast near the pressure limit, otherwise they are fine. e3 exhibits not of that spikeyness. Use Clays data for e3 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I have burned through about 16lbs in the last 3 years... I agree with zzt and Bamboo. Use Clays data and be careful they both work well in 9mm target loads but are not much use for full power stuff as they both get spikey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 38spl - 160 gr Bayou, 3.5grs Clay Dot, FEd SPP, 1.500 OAL 129 PF SD 9 This was my ICORE and USPSA load for a long time My wife still uses it for ICORE (I've gone to 38 short Colt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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