flyfishdave Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) Needed an excuse to hit the range today so packed up the Oehler 35P chrono, some rifles and ammo. On their website, Freedom Munitions lists their .223 Rem 55 gr FMJ @ 3250 fps average. My velocities out of an 18" JP light contour, .223 Wylde, measured much less, so I'm thinking that their average might be from a longer barrel. String 1: 2868 2891 2904 2864 2874 2884 2837 2896 2877 AVG = 2877 SD = 20 String 2: 2852 2879 2866 2864 2874 2863 2870 2880 2862 2866 AVG = 2868 SD = 8 String 3: 2922 2859 2882 2895 2872 2876 2892 2883 2876 2870 AVG = 2883 SD = 17 For all three strings, the average is 2874 fps with a SD of 17. I was shooting with a buddy and asked him to sling some rounds through the screens for some more data. His rifle wears a 16" barrel, with a 5.56 chamber and was shooting Freedom Munitions .223 55 gr FMJ remanufactured rounds....not new ammunition. 2797 2769 2806 2777 2822 2926 2917 2905 2736 AVG = 2828 SD = 70 ***his 10th shot was omitted from the data set. We both heard a softer 'pop' and the chrono registered 1521 fps, and the proof channel recorded 1022 fps and flagged that shot as a possible error*** Anyone have any other chrono data for Freedom Munitions .223 Rem 55 gr FMJ to share? FYI, here's some chrono data obtained using the same rifle, but shooting Prvi Parizan 5.56 55 gr M193 3120 3169 3174 3150 3136 3142 3187 3173 3136 AVG = 3154 STD = 22 3165 3139 3173 3106 3159 3145 3181 3180 3126 3180 AVG = 3155 SD = 26 3227 3150 3142 3139 3200 3210 3200 3172 3159 3181 AVG = 3178 SD = 31 Using an SLR adjustable gas block, the 5.56 needed '8' clicks open and the .223 needed '7' clicks to lock the bolt back on an empty mag. Because I fast-tracked this 18" build to replace a AKS-74U Krinkov SBR with 8.25" barrel which couldn't hit all the steel plates @ 200 yards before timing out (1st match at the FNH NHRPC/Topton 2-gun), for ghits and shiggles, I chronoed some 5.45 in the event I bring the Suchka out of retirement for a match. Also brought along a LWRC 5.45 upper that I forgot I had, NIB for like 3 years.... Silver Bear, 5.45 x 39, 60 gr FMJ Krink, 8.25" @ AVG = 2356, SD = 20 LWRC, 14.5" @ AVG = 2804, SD =19 Figured AK-74/5.45x39 shooters might find the velocities useful. Edited May 2, 2015 by flyfishdave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the data! I've never chrono'd the FM 55gr reman loads but out of my 16" wylde chambered 1 in 8 twist barrel I've used the trajectory validation feature on Strelok vs. my actual drop at 400yds to calculate a 2900fps velocity. Those numbers have got me spot on dope out to 880yds, so either the velocity is really close or the B.C. is skewed in such a way that it just happens to be correct dope, which seems unlikely. I haven't actively shot 5.45 in a couple years now but I'm always interesting in seeing some actual data for it. Any chance you've ever chrono'd the Hornady 60gr V-max loads? Edited May 2, 2015 by TonytheTiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishdave Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 is that for the 5.45 x 39? If I get a chance to try that round (or anything else) and have the chrono setup, I'll be sure to share the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Yup, the 5.45 V-max load. It always shot great out of my AK74, it was unusually accurate (2MOA or slightly better on good days) and it made hits on IPSC paper at 500yds way easier than silver/brown bear, wolf or surplus. Always wondered how accurate the velocity listed on the box was though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 ***his 10th shot was omitted from the data set. We both heard a softer 'pop' and the chrono registered 1521 fps, and the proof channel recorded 1022 fps and flagged that shot as a possible error*** Is this common with their remanufactured ammo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishdave Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 I've only shot less than 100 rounds of this new stuff so can't say much, but my friend has shot over 3K of their new and remanufactured (more reman than new) .223 and this was the first round that had an issue. The std deviation of the reman seemed a little higher than the new, but we he only ran 9 rounds over the chrono......and not sure if shooting .223 in a 5.56 chamber would add to the variance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Minimum headspace dimensions are identical between 5.56 and .223 chambers. Max headspace is looser in a 5.56. The throat of the 5.56 chamber is longer and looser, but it shouldn't alter the velocity variance from shot-to-shot. I haven't had any "soft pops" with the freedom reman ammo, but your velocities track very closely with my experience in a 16" barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakedog02 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Thanks for sharing your chrono data. I regularly shoot freedom ammo and I've been really curious if the velocity lives up to their claims. I've shot over a couple thousand rounds of Freedom's remanufactured 9mm and I've had 3 soft pops in total. Never had any problems with their new stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakedog02 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 When I shoot new freedom 223 thru my AR (13.5" barrel) side by side with PMC gold or Prvi Parizan ammo, I have noticed the freedom drops more noticeably when pushing 200 plus yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannybot Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) I think I got about 2509 FPS in my suppressed 10.5" Wylde chamber Seven shot string 2433-2572 SD 50.2 Edited May 13, 2015 by Dannybot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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