Wesquire Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Anyone have a good list or link to recommended production mods for the stock 2/3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagi Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The search option is your friend.... your typical mods will be recoil spring, guiderod and misc. springs... be aquainted with mr. flitz.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) The search option is your friend.... your typical mods will be recoil spring, guiderod and misc. springs... be aquainted with mr. flitz.... Yeah, but the problem is search doesn't really tell you the details you might need....like how you should get a one piece sear if you are going to use the xtreme hammer. Anyways, I don't even have my gun yet, but I thought I'd make a list and I would appreciate if y'all could tell me where I go wrong. Here's what I have gathered so far: Xtreme Delta Hammer One piece hard sear FO front sight Xtreme Grips 8lbs Recoil Spring Xtreme "Light" Hammer Spring Semi-flat trigger "Light" and "Extra power" Firing Pin Springs (Can someone please explain the effect on primer strikes? Why does the recoil spring come with the extra power FP spring?) Xtreme or Henning Firing Pin Theoretically, should these parts give me a nice trigger and also prevent light primer strikes? Edited March 23, 2015 by Wesquire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetorian97 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 When it comes to springs, its a balancing act. The lighter you go the lighter the trigger pull....HOWEVER the lighter you go the more you run into the risk of light primer strikes. Too much emphasis it put on trigger pull weight when it should be how smooth the pull is. You can have a 4lb trigger pull feel lighter than a 2lb just because its so much smoother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 When it comes to springs, its a balancing act. The lighter you go the lighter the trigger pull....HOWEVER the lighter you go the more you run into the risk of light primer strikes. Too much emphasis it put on trigger pull weight when it should be how smooth the pull is. You can have a 4lb trigger pull feel lighter than a 2lb just because its so much smoother. The extra power firing pin spring will increase trigger pull and help prevent light prime strikes correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justpaul Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 ^^ yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 ^^ yes Good. Hopefully the light FP spring will work, if not I got the xtra power. I use tula primers a lot and those are hard so, we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetorian97 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I avoid anything that says use Fed primers only. Typically light springs suggest that. Primers are still semi scarce so I don't want to limit myself to one brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLx Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The "one piece hard sear" you have in your list, where are you getting it from? If it's EGW, I don't think it will work for production. At least looking at the picture. It looks like it doesn't have the arm for the FPB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 The "one piece hard sear" you have in your list, where are you getting it from? If it's EGW, I don't think it will work for production. At least looking at the picture. It looks like it doesn't have the arm for the FPB. The EGW is the only one in stock right now. It doesn't engage the FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLx Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Your title to this thread is production mods. Are you shooting this in uspsa production, or do you mean mods you can do from the factory? If you're shooting production, disabling the FPB is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 Your title to this thread is production mods. Are you shooting this in uspsa production, or do you mean mods you can do from the factory? If you're shooting production, disabling the FPB is illegal. I will be using the one that doesn't disable the FPB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 ^^ yes No!! Firstly the firing pin spring has zero effect on trigger pull. Nothing to do with it at all. Secondly a heavier firing pin spring may cause light strikes. That spring is providing resistance to the pin. So the heavier the spring the weaker the hit. When tuning the gun you generally fit a lighter hammer spring (primarily to reduce da pull weight) when you do this its a good idea to fit a LIGHTER firing pin spring. Also Wes. The hard sear is made by egw. It's not production legal as it doesn't operate the firing pin block. You are better off with just a 1 piece factory sear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 ^^ yesNo!!Firstly the firing pin spring has zero effect on trigger pull. Nothing to do with it at all. Secondly a heavier firing pin spring may cause light strikes. That spring is providing resistance to the pin. So the heavier the spring the weaker the hit. When tuning the gun you generally fit a lighter hammer spring (primarily to reduce da pull weight) when you do this its a good idea to fit a LIGHTER firing pin spring. Also Wes. The hard sear is made by egw. It's not production legal as it doesn't operate the firing pin block. You are better off with just a 1 piece factory sear. Yeah, I got the factory 1 piece. So if I have light primer strike problems, what should be the first fix I try? Heavier hammer spring? Clip coils from Fp spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLx Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 You dont even have the gun yet! You wont have light strikes if you use the light firing pin spring and the extended firing pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 You dont even have the gun yet! You wont have light strikes if you use the light firing pin spring and the extended firing pin. Just don't want to be sitting around with a gun that don't work. Trying to get all my bases covered . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 One last question, any real difference between Henning and eg 2.0 extended firing pin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yes if you do suffer light strikes (and assuming you have extended firing pin and light during pin spring) you would consider the following: Make sure firing pin is not dragging/hitting the fpb Make sure you are seating your primers nice and deep (assuming you reload) Then you would try a heavier hammer spring it will give a harder strike but will increase the da trigger pull. Sa not affected much if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I would do the pencil test before modding anything. This will help give you an idea how hard the firing pin is hitting. My bone stock Match Elite launches the pencils pretty far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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