Brassaholic13 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Anyone (including Dillon) willing to share what the 1050's Swage Rod is made from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigs Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 The finest bumpers, carefully melted by skilled Chinese factory workers. Seriously though, I don't know. It seems to only be surface hardened though, and the hardening isn't always very consistent. I've had some rods wear out very quickly and others last much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbauer67 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) If I had to guess i would say 4140 or O1, most likely with some type heat treatment applied to the finished part. Edited December 16, 2014 by Mbauer67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'll take it over to a local lab and have destructive testing done on a wore out one I have. They'll be able to tell me what Rockwell it's hardened to, and what material it's made from. Won't cost but about $35.00 to have it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I know from experience, that if something's gotta give, it better be the swaging rod. I'm glad it gave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigs Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Swage rod vs shellplate ... shell plate loses. Though I have had both of them destroy each other at the same time once. Never cycle with the head off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbauer67 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I know from experience, that if something's gotta give, it better be the swaging rod. I'm glad it gave. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ams30gts Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Swage rod vs shellplate ... shell plate loses. Though I have had both of them destroy each other at the same time once. Never cycle with the head off! Dooooood. I did this once and bent the heck out of my shell plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Well, I got the swage rod to a Rockwell tester today. Material tested out as 1018 cold rolled hardness. Will do a destructive test at a lab next week to verify findings of the Rockwell. Pretty low grade material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmclaine Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) I had the expander portion of mine milled off and the machinist had no issue trimming it down. He did note that it was not very straight though with enough runout to make it difficult to stay even with the lower portion of the rod. Looked like a hot dog in the lathe chuck when it spun. Edited December 31, 2014 by pmclaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 I've made one from 4150 then heat treated it myself, and I'm having one hard turned from D2 drill rod right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Just got the D2 swage rod in... Can't wait to test it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datguy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 You going to offer these for sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctay Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 You going to offer these for sale? +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjacobs Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Just got the D2 swage rod in... Can't wait to test it!!! Swage_Rod.JPG Let me know how it works. Im local to you and may see if you can get me 2 made up. What was the cost? PM me if you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigs Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Swage rod vs shellplate ... shell plate loses. Though I have had both of them destroy each other at the same time once. Never cycle with the head off! Dooooood. I did this once and bent the heck out of my shell plate. I can't believe I did it again yesterday. This time was even stupider. I set the toolhead on the ram but I didn't put the bolt in right away. I set the shellplate nut finger tight and was going to adjust the tension jogging with the toolhead on. I jogged the press and the toolhead flew 2 feet into the air, the shellplate partially indexed, and the swage rod crashed hard into the shellplate, bending it up 1/4th inch. Anyone want to buy 6 damaged #3 shellplates? On the plus side I must have gotten the rare "properly hardened" Dillon swage rod, because it surprisingly wan't damaged this time. Edited January 9, 2015 by gigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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