3djedi Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Wow INSANE Russian Counter Terror Confidence Drill: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop414 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Think the up-range AD was intentional? Also, pretty sure Andre was over here in July at RM3G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Insane is right.....wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 No way....absolutely insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 They don't call them crazy Ivan's for nothing...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I have some absolute trust for some folks, and I'd still never cross "that" line.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreGarciaTAT2 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I had the very rare opportunity to visit Vladivostok when I was in the USAF, at the time I was a linguist. Specializing in Russian and Korean, and working as a tactical interrogator. Trust me, these guys do training that gets much crazier than this when the presence of US cameras isn't a factor. The 'Spetznas'... Or Войска специального назначения, is the hardest, most focused group of operators I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Doing the mag dump over his shoulder, without aiming, just barely to the right of the guy downrange? Thanks, but I'm thinking I'm gonna take a rain check on that one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Doing the mag dump over his shoulder, without aiming, just barely to the right of the guy downrange? Thanks, but I'm thinking I'm gonna take a rain check on that one..I wonder if that gun was loaded with blanks. I noticed that gun had tape on it. Like yellow safety tape..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 You can see the splash on the berm, so I'm guessing that they were live rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Damn..... I wonder why they don't use something like simunitions. Seems like risk of death is pretty high after spending lots of money training these guys..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 On one hand I can kinda understand why they don't. They call these "confidence drills," right? Well shooting live rounds would build confidence in your gear as well as your partners. (I know I sound just as crazy as them since I'm defending this, but just stay with me.) Getting shot while wearing your vest would show you how effective it is, and that yes, you can and will fight through the pain (cause getting shot in your vest would still hurt like hell). And, you gain trust in your comrades by having them shoot near/at you but won't actually hurt you. Crazy and overkill? Yea I think so, but I kinda get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breacher217 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 " No Russians we harmed in the filming of THIS segment" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPSS Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Think the up-range AD was intentional? Also, pretty sure Andre was over here in July at RM3G. A nd is never intentional. In that context, there isn't a "up range" Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited November 6, 2014 by NPSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 The Russians use The tactic of shooting the ground as a crowd control measure. I'm serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebwake Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 These guys are clowns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breacher217 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 These guys are crazy but they are no joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebwake Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Im not so sure, I have spent a considerable amount of time working with Russian spetsnaz... While these guys seem to be a little more "tier 1ish" than your everyday Spetsnaz, the fact remains that they (russian SF) tend to make poor tactical decisions, regardless of apparent training level... I have seen first hand Spetsnaz guys weed their ranks inadvertantly doing stunts like this to prove something to other military's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breacher217 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Wow, nice to hear of first hand accounts of this behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Andre, the guy taking live rounds to his vest was a pleasure to r.o. at the world shoot. Very much seemed to be a normal gun guy. He did move quickly though especially for a big guy. On one part of one stage i was working he was ahead in time of jerry miculek but then he got hung up on one target & there went his time...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCOShooter Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Damn..... I wonder why they don't use something like simunitions. Seems like risk of death is pretty high after spending lots of money training these guys..... Because it's Russia... They don't care about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Lol.....point taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeel Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I have some absolute trust for some folks, and I'd still never cross "that" line.... Well, I was going to invite you to go shooting this weekend.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosse Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 These guys are clowns...If they do this to their teammates, imagine whatd they be willing to do to their enemies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebwake Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Yea like excecute Chechens and kill hostages with gas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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