kneelingatlas Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) That load probably doesn't make minor, but with a light enough recoil spring you should be able to cycle ammo at ~100pf. Edited November 17, 2014 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic808 Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 no I haven't chrono anything yet. since I don't compete yet my concern would have a good load for practice ammo mic-mic: @2A Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I think you'll really enjoy a lighter spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic808 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 lighter spring? you mean change the stock dual spring from gen 4 to any particular one? please advise me what to get and I'll try it out mic-mic: @2A Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic808 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) so here's would be my new test load. powder: Hodgdon CLAYS 3.4 grain OAL: 1.105- 1.110 " Crimp: 0.376" Bullet: Extreme 124 gr. HP mic-mic: @2A Hawaii Edited November 16, 2014 by mic808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I'm not a Glock guy, but someone in the Glock subforum could probably get you dialed in. If you're going to bump the charge you'll probably be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic808 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 thanks mic-mic: @2A Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Mic808, A crono has nothing to do with competing, and everything to do with being safe. its another tool that helps the reloader produce safe ammo that will fulfill the goal. It is as important as a set of reloading dies. Spend the 100 bucks on a Crony or a ProCrono and learn how to use it. As someone above said, Hodgdon doesn't even recommend using 147s with Clays, so that should be red flag. Sure, it can be done, and done safely, but not using a crono when developing loads is like shooting without sights on the gun. jmho... jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Mic said he's using 124s, it's only cowboys like me using 147s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Clays and 147 coated is the shizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeZer Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Why such short OAL? Glock should easily take longer round. I'm loading at 1.12" only due to CZ barrel, I'd go longer if I could to 1.14-1.15". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic808 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 my previous load was powder: hodgdon clays 3.0gr SPP: winchester spp OAL: 1.124 Crimp: 0.376 Bullet: Xtreme 124 gr HP my problem with these load wont cycle good. brass got stuck on slide and wont feed the next round. mic-mic: @2A Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertia Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) Not to be a jerk but do not work up unpublished loads with fast powder in 9mm without a chronograph. I shoot piles and piles of 135g coated with 3.2 ish of clays (in a cz) but the pressure rises quickly above that load so anything over 3.5 is to be handled carefully. As atlas says you need to sort out the recoil spring and you need to know what pf your at. Clays is extremely soft shooting powder with coated lead but I run a very light spring to take advantage of this. If you want soft loads you have the right powder if you want to cycle a stock Glock recoil spring get something slower. My data shows 3.3-3.4 as a test load should be fine with 124 but I would still use a lower spring so you can take advantage of the soft load. If your shooting competition you also need to consider if your making power factor. Shooting sub-minor for practice is pleasant but not really a good habit to get into if you want to get more serious down the road. Making pf with clays safely will usually require lead or coated bullets and a good length barrel. Edited November 16, 2014 by inertia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeZer Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I posted my load many times, I also use plated bullets thou Berry's. 3.6gr is what I came up with and I did chrono every load I settled on. This is my Prod Div load: OAL: 1.12" powder: Clays charge: 3.6gr bullet: Berry's 124gr RN plated PF: 129 I too use light 11# recoil spring in my gun but others shot my ammo with factory springs in diff guns and they all worked 100%. I've never had any issues with the load as well as those who shot my ammo and we went thru about 50K rounds of that recipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic808 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 ok i will adjust the oal and see hopefully i will get good result. thanks for all the advice mic-mic: @2A Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic808 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 btw any advice on recoil spring for g34 gen 4? mic-mic: @2A Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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