moonman16 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Just looking for any load info for my two CZ's. 1 SP-01 and 1 P-01. I want to try these Lead 124 TC Grooveless projectiles. Been shooting a few of Donnie's 147's. Looking to load with VV N320 powder but could use ANY LOAD INFO. I've been using some of Donnie's New Color coatings HI-TEK Red/Copper as of late, but these were only available this past Monday in Green or the GOLD that these are. Edited July 17, 2014 by moonman16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickster686 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Yes I was interested in those to . Wonder if you even have to change the seating depth from the 147 . Looks the same with less butt on it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorfish Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 CZ 75. Bayou 124gr RN. OAL 1.12. 3.9gr VV N320. CCI 500 SPP. Makes about 129 PF. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 My CZ SP-01 and P-01 Compact will load the Bayou Coated 147 RNFP at 1.130/1.135. To use the Bayou 124 TC (Coated Groove-less) I need to set C.O.L. at 1.080 (with a safety factor) to pass the PLUNK TEST in both firearms. I was looking for a possible start charge with the Bayou 124 TC and VV N320 powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorfish Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 My CZ SP-01 and P-01 Compact will load the Bayou Coated 147 RNFP at 1.130/1.135. To use the Bayou 124 TC (Coated Groove-less) I need to set C.O.L. at 1.080 (with a safety factor) to pass the PLUNK TEST in both firearms. I was looking for a possible start charge with the Bayou 124 TC and VV N320 powder. I moved to round nose bullets on my CZ's simply because the TC's required such a short OAL. If you're dropping the OAL that much I would drop back to about 3.6 grains of N320 and work up from there (assuming you're loading minor). My guess is you'll end up somewhere around 3.8 - 3.9 grains of N320 through the CZ SP01. As always YMMV. I've never thought much about the color of bullets. Donnie usually sends me green, but I can remember getting some reddish/gold colored bullets before. No difference to me, but I've seen people who theorize that gold and silver colored bullets reflect some of the "heat" away from the base of bullet and therefore these reflective colors run cleaner. Green has always worked well for me... Love my Bayou's, even with lube ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 razorfish, Thanks, The newer HI-TEK colors coming out have better/better catalysts. Gateway Bullets presently has the newest DRY POWER HI-TEK mix that has the color/catalyst already together in DRY form, that makes it easier for self casters/coaters to apply. DONNIE'S order of the newest colors and dry mixes has not yet arrived in the US from Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorfish Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I don't cast bullets yet, but the dry-mix is a move in the right direction. It sounds like you combine the dry-mix with acetone to create the coating. With all of the excitement over the dry mix I'm assuming this simplifies things a bit. Between myself and two sons, I've got a case a month bullet habit so I'll have to look into this. I can't imagine I would like casting much less coating, but I sure do love saving money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 razorfish, Correct, the dry mix will be easier to mix up, add your own Acetone, coat/dry/bake/coat/dry/bake/SIZE/load/shoot. You can coat/bake 200/300 at a time IN A DEDICATED CONVECTION COUNTERTOP OVEN (it can never be used for FOOD AGAIN). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripod Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 135gr RN Bayou bullet 1.14 OAL 3.9 grains of Solo 1000 equals 132 PF in 5.25 XDm 131 PF in G34 129 PF in 1911 Government Model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Tripod, WRONG projectile, I was looking for info on the BAYOU 124 grain TCG profile(grooveless) as in NO lube groove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmagee67 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 M&P Pro and Kimber Target II, both in 9mm get BB 124gr loaded with 4.1gr N320 @ 1.125-1.130. This load gives me a PF of 130 in the M&P and 133 in the Kimber. Very nice shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 I think I'll start with 3.5 grains of VV N320 on the Bayou 124 TC loaded at the C.O.L. of 1.080 for my CZ's. (SP-01, P0-1 Compact) Go up to 3.6, 3.7, 3.8 We'll see. The CZ SP-01 seem to shoot well INDOORS with the Bayou COATED 147 grain RNFP and 3.2 grains VV N320 loaded at 1.130/1.135. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max It Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 hi ya, Razor Fish; its almost as cheap to buy as get into casting and smelting unless you have a silver stream nearby. I can pay $75./1,000 for blackbulletsinternational.com and avoid expense and mess. My wife disliked me doing the smelting anywhere near the house, ditto for casting. to the moon man, I think I would trust the loading books more than personal recommendations: any lead bullet of same weight carrys same ballistics, coated or not imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Max it, I'm retired and got back into shooting, then Reloading and Casting, then Coating all for a hobby to keep occupied. Now I seem to be heading time wise like a full time job. I purchased completed projectiles also, from Bayou, & SNS. I've in the past used Lead from Penn, Quality Cast, Hornady & ZERO projectiles. I have some of the NEW projectiles from THE BLUE BULLET COMPANY that a friend gave me some samples of and I've not loaded them as of yet. They're 158 grain .359 SWC NO LUBE GROOVE. I use HI-TEK coatings from Bayou to coat with and presently have an order on the way from Gateway Bullets of the NEW "DRY MIX HI-TEK" product. Donnie's order has not yet left Australia. (he ordered a bunch I hear). I find the Casting and Coating to be RELAXING just as I find reloading to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max It Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 hi Moonman, Good on yer' too many hobbies for me; loading an indoor and outdoor shooting more than fills my spare time (full time worker). Also I am RO at various matches: GSSF, and Kids Safari (Tomorrow) glad to have your input. Be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Max it, Almost forgot, I also took up being an NRA Instructor at a private club mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickster686 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Moon man how were your results with these bullets. I am very interested in them as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdinga Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Anyone loaded these bullets yet? I am interested trying them with either WST or WSF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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