ffgats Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Anybody tried this load - AR 5.56 24.5 h335 55gr oal 2.20 Cci 450(magnum My previous was using the Cci 400, switch to WSR since the 400 is always out of stock ,Now Im having some some flattened and pierced primer on the WSR. Any feedback would be helpful , thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic2377 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I believe that is a safe load - perhaps the issue is that the WSR's may be a soft primer compared to the CCI's. I believe that the 24.5 gr of H335 under a 55 gr is a safe load, as would just about any reloader here on BE. Have you tried reducing the load to see if the primer piercing goes away? Also, you may consider replacing your firing pin. Once you pierce a few, the firing pin is damaged by high pressure gas and the piercing issue will worsen. If not replaced in a timely manner, gas-cutting of the bolt can begin to occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 my concern is using the CCI 450(magnum primer) instead of the CCI 400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent C Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 the 450 primers are recommended for use in the AR platform over the 400s typically due to their thicker cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptoid Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 the 450 primers are recommended for use in the AR platform over the 400s typically due to their thicker cup They are also recommended when using H335 in a lot of loading data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prebaned Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 That is the load I am going to use. The 450's have a .025 thick cup while the 400's are .020. I can't bring myself to buy the #41's even though the anvil is spaced a tad further away then the 450's. The thicker cup is good enough for me. Sent painfully from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 Thanks, just a little bit concern coz Hodgdon recommends the WSR primer on their data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prebaned Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Just ran a ten shot string 62*F .222/5.56MM 55gr FMJBT W/C Hornady H335 24.1gr Trim 1.750 +/-.002 OAL 2.219 (mid cannalure) Light crimp CCI 450 SRM 2677AVG FPS AR15 16 inch 1/9 twist barrel Sent painfully from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk Edited May 29, 2014 by Prebaned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hceuterpe Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I actually emailed CCI about this: Me: "For reloading .223 rounds intended for use in an AR-15, is it preferable to use CCI small rifle (400) or CCI magnum (450) primers?" Them: "it will depend on the powder used. You will want to use the right primer for the right powder. " Me: "Plan is for using H335 powder, or other ball that would meter consistently for progressive loading?" Them: "you will want to follow the load data for the bullet used. When using Speer Bullets in the 55Gr weight, the H335 does require a magnum primer and you could use the #41." Other than omitting my name in the original emails, the entire series above is verbatim when it was exchanged in late April 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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