glock34shooter Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Gents I bought an M2 and I have a +5 tube that gives me 8 total. I would like to know if a XXL end cap is long enough to fit and extra shell in for a total of 9. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerguy Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Yes it will but finding them is getting hard to do. I would just buy another tube to get 10+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 XL and XXL 'older style' (non-MXT) are in stock at Nordic. Not positive on their threading, but just picked one up for my NC equipped JM pro.. http://nordiccomp.com/retail/shop/nc-extensions/nc-shotgun-extension-tube-xxl-end-cap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikesToShoot Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Gents I bought an M2 and I have a +5 tube that gives me 8 total. I would like to know if a XXL end cap is long enough to fit and extra shell in for a total of 9. Matt You might want to check out what Roulette Tactical has come up with for the old style Nordic tubes. +1 and +2 caps. http://shop.roulettetactical.com/ I'm playing with their +2 and it works great with stock spring and follower on a 24" JM 930. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigS. Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The XXL is 1-1/2 longer than the standard cap , so if the 9th shell is within that amount of going in it will work. provided you are using the style tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikesToShoot Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 After running a few tubes thru my Roulette +2 I look forward to adding a +1 to my range bag. http://shop.roulettetactical.com/Standard-Nordic-Caps_c3.htm Roulette Tactical is great to deal with and true fans of the sport. I read on this forum it's good to be able to select 9, 10 or 11 before the match depending how stages are designed. What's funny is that the +2 worked with the factory spring. The mag loaded easy and shot all eleven without any problems. The factory spring (thinner wire) sticks out 13" above tube and I had to cut a new Wolff XP spring (thicker wire) to 11" before it would work. I have a Nordic low drag follower that's too long to allow +2, same thing happened when I tried the Nordic XXL cap that my friend loaned me. I'll trim that followed down and it should work just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Not seeing a reason to buy the Roulette (besides the +2) when the NCs are available..although it looks like the colored caps are on sale...if you can sort which one fits your specific shotgun. It would be nice if they added in the length of their +1 and +2s on the website, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) The XXL caps will add a round to an old style tube. The XXL caps won't fit on the new MXT tubes. Shooters Source has extended caps for the new MXT style tubes. http://www.theshooterssource.com/black-extended-nordic-tubes-p-20082.html Edited September 29, 2013 by Jesse Tischauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikesToShoot Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Not seeing a reason to buy the Roulette (besides the +2) when the NCs are available..although it looks like the colored caps are on sale...if you can sort which one fits your specific shotgun. It would be nice if they added in the length of their +1 and +2s on the website, though. When the XXL cap was impossible to find and Nordic was telling me to just buy their new MXT tube, cap and spring I was a little disappointed with them. I wanted a $20 cap not $50+ for the other stuff. Then Roulette quickly replied to my request with a "heck yes, we can do that" answer. Who do you think I'd recommend? Yes, the XXL is cheaper than the +1. Yes, Nordic is a great sponsor to many match's and shooters should support them. But if someone wants a +1 and +2 they can get it for one shipping price from Roulette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 The XXL caps will add a round to an old style tube. The XXL caps won't fit on the new MXT tubes. Shooters Source has extended caps for the new MXT style tubes. http://www.theshooterssource.com/black-extended-nordic-tubes-p-20082.html Ahh, right, NC doesn't make extended caps for the new MXT tubes. That one makes a lot of sense, in that case, thanks! Not seeing a reason to buy the Roulette (besides the +2) when the NCs are available..although it looks like the colored caps are on sale...if you can sort which one fits your specific shotgun. It would be nice if they added in the length of their +1 and +2s on the website, though. When the XXL cap was impossible to find and Nordic was telling me to just buy their new MXT tube, cap and spring I was a little disappointed with them. I wanted a $20 cap not $50+ for the other stuff. Then Roulette quickly replied to my request with a "heck yes, we can do that" answer. Who do you think I'd recommend? Yes, the XXL is cheaper than the +1. Yes, Nordic is a great sponsor to many match's and shooters should support them. But if someone wants a +1 and +2 they can get it for one shipping price from Roulette. Yeah, I really didn't like that one (go buy a new $$ MXT kit) either, so I can understand that. Unless there's actually some parts interchange, which I don't think there is, the new MXT setups run $80. Still wish they'd improve their site item details. If I'm not wrong, you can go here, select blue or red, type: Nordic, and get a Nordic end cap for $13? http://shop.roulettetactical.com/Plus-1-Shotgun-Cap-RT0002-R-B-1.htm In my case, I wanted the XL and XXL vs a +1 and +2, but will keep them in mind in the future. The XL sits nearly flush with the 22" barrel (should be damned close once I get my extended chokes), and gives me 9 in the tube, assuming I'm not running unusually long shells. The XXL is basically on hand if I wind up picking up longer shells and the XL doesn't cut it. I'm not immediately looking for +2, but may well be in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikesToShoot Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 That's the thing. I was at a two day SG match in Sparta this year and asked the guy from SS about getting an XXL. He told me the MXT was the way to go and not everybody was getting and extra round using the XXL. (Heck no you won't get an extra round if you're using a longer, non factory, follower). He told me I didn't need to get the Mag tube nut extension, just the tube, spring and cap. That's why it was around $50 instead of the $80. Fair deal but not what I was looking for. My guess it that Roulette will probably make whatever shooters are looking for. The guy runs a machine shop and does this SG stuff for fun. Lucky us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Hmm. I thought I'd read somewhere about the MXT being reversible, which would imply the same threads on either end of the tube, right? If that's the case, seems like if an MXT tube would fit onto an 'original NC JM' magazine nut, wouldn't the original end cap then fit on the MXT tubes, as well? Sorry if this seems OT, just could have sworn that was my understanding on the MXT.. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikesToShoot Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Hmm. I thought I'd read somewhere about the MXT being reversible, which would imply the same threads on either end of the tube, right? If that's the case, seems like if an MXT tube would fit onto an 'original NC JM' magazine nut, wouldn't the original end cap then fit on the MXT tubes, as well? Sorry if this seems OT, just could have sworn that was my understanding on the MXT.. ?? I guess we read some of the same threads. Here's how I see it. Mossberg mag tube is size "A" at both ends. then comes the mag nut "A" on one side "B" on the other. Then comes extension with "B" on one end and "C" on other. Here comes MXT, both ends have "B" threads. Old style caps have "C" threads and won't work with MXT tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) And Roulette had them way before Shooter's Source, as I was the guy that designed them and had them built by the good people at Roulette. The original extended prototype end caps for the MXT tubes are in my hands. Keith Garcia has the second prototype +2 and Kurt Miller has the second prototype +1. The idea for the caps in red came from ogiebb, another local shooter at Rio Salado. From making red and black caps is how the name "Roulette" came about. When it comes to integrity, Glenn at Roulette is a first class act... Mick The XXL caps will add a round to an old style tube. The XXL caps won't fit on the new MXT tubes.Shooters Source has extended caps for the new MXT style tubes.http://www.theshooterssource.com/black-extended-nordic-tubes-p-20082.html Edited October 1, 2013 by MickB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 And Roulette had them way before Shooter's Source, as I was the guy that designed them and had them built by the good people at Roulette. The original extended prototype end caps for the MXT tubes are in my hands. Keith Garcia has the second prototype +2 and Kurt Miller has the second prototype +1. The idea for the caps in red came from ogiebb, another local shooter at Rio Salado. From making red and black caps is how the name "Roulette" came about. When it comes to integrity, Glenn at Roulette is a first class act... Mick The XXL caps will add a round to an old style tube. The XXL caps won't fit on the new MXT tubes. Shooters Source has extended caps for the new MXT style tubes. http://www.theshooterssource.com/black-extended-nordic-tubes-p-20082.html It's not rocket science. It's a longer cap. Sorry but My money goes to Shooters Source since they have been a sponsor with a tent at every major match I've shot this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba04 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Sorry this is kind of old, but to confirm the roulette really adds +2 capacity?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 One a +4 MXT tube on a Versamax, yes. That is what it was designed to do. On other shotgun/tube length combos, other factors will come into play such as spring length, follower length and brand of shells used. What combination are you looking at? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba04 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Currently use a tube+extension that gives me 8 in the tube on my benelli m2. It has the nordic follower with wolf xp spring. thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullittmcqueen Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Sorry this is kind of old, but to confirm the roulette really adds +2 capacity?? Yes, my JM PRO tube went from 9 to 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba04 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Thanks I went ahead and ordered their plus 2 and plus 1. On their website it stated as if next month they will no longer be taking orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikesToShoot Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) The +2 worked on my JM930 with the factory spring and follower. The Nordic follower was too long and when I tried a Wolff spring the wire was so thick I had to cut it shorter than the factory spring but it did work. I ended up just running it with the factory spring and follower. Did you make use of their "buy one get one FREE code? "BOGO" http://shop.roulettetactical.com/Plus-2-Standard-Nordic-Caps-RT-Nordic2.htm?productId=24 Edited March 5, 2014 by LikesToShoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba04 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) sure did. hell of a deal buy one get one free.....and the free one was the more expensive one.....badass. Also got shipping notice with tracking # literally 15 minutes after placing the order. Incredible. Edited March 5, 2014 by bubba04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Htownfister Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 So on their website it says for standard nordic. Will it fit the MXT tube? Thanks, HT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Order the one for the Versamax tactical. These use the MXT tube... Mick So on their website it says for standard nordic. Will it fit the MXT tube?Thanks, HT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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