M.E.Anglin Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Just got the wife a new S90, what needs to be done to be able to ghost load it? It looks like some grinding on the carrier? just checking in for some advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 On the bottom of the bolt, at the rear, there is a grove machined across it. Simpley weld this up & refinish it & WALLA, the ghost load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.E.Anglin Posted October 26, 2004 Author Share Posted October 26, 2004 like a famous man once said....thank you , thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Benny: The propper mispronunciation of this French word is "voeila" also the back of this cut can be cut out at a 45 degree angle and the efect is the same. Ask "Rigger J.J." we did his at the Nationals in about 5 min. with a Dremel he brought!! KURTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.45 Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 The propper mispronunciation of this French word is "voeila" 2 and a half days in Paris and the man thinks he is a blooming native, or is he just a cunning linguist ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacMan Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 It should be "Voila" my friends...and here I was thinking that Benny just added the "southern" american touch to the frenchy word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Paris native? I heard he was the queen of England. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Buff Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 A stupid Q - What is goast loading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGE Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 "Ghost Loading" is a term someone made up, (it even confuses me) that means the same as "loading a shell under the carrier", or as I call it "loading a shell on the lift gate". M1's can be set up to be able to load and extra round even when the magazine is full and one is in the chamber, (aka, 8+1+1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Buff Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Gotta have it, gotta have it.... Thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Pacman: I was just spelling it out phonetically so that Benny would be able to "miss pronounce" it right! "Queen" of England??? Mike.45 must have told!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Smith Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Myself and at least one other person have been using some JB-Weld like epoxy there for 18+ months. -z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 No, Mike didnt tell, figured it out at the nationals. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Could swear I was able to get the Super X2 Practical to do that too. . . will have to verify. Ghost Dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.E.Anglin Posted October 27, 2004 Author Share Posted October 27, 2004 damn ...all that info and and a frigg'n french lesson too!!!! Mr. Kurt which direction do you grind the angle? I'm assuming angle to front of the carrier?? I love to assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.45 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Paris native? I heard he was the queen of England. It was when Kurt got off the train from Paris to London with a newly aquired black French Beret pertched on his noggin that I realised he had turned into Eurotrash as for the Queen of England, he did have fun at the Palace when he was over and liked the soldiers all dressed up and marching around. He claimed it was their guns he was admiring.... You can ghost load the SX, but it seems to cause more problems than it solves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 M.E. Anglin: It is the back of the notch at the very back of the bolt...yea, we would call it the carrier, but Benelli calls the darn thing the bolt. Cut it out at about a 45 degree angle and PRESTO!! ( enough French for now ) you can load the carrier. Ghost loading?? I hadn't heard that term untill very recently. I must admit I didn't know what it was untill it was explained to me by a more knowledgeable shooter. Darn...just when you think you know something! A qick word on J.B. Weld. Had one guy that took this approach. Ran like a charm right up untill that little blob fell off into the trigger group ( you see the bolt slams back and forth with some vigor and expands and contracts when hot and cold at a much different rate than J.B.). It wedged the disconector causing the gun to double ( no big deal )and on the second shot the hammer hit the top of the disconector causing it to break at the retaining pin and shear off. It then jambed forward and broke the retaining hooks on the trigger, and locked the gun up tight. It took just under10 minutes to diagnose this problem, after he zeroed the stage, it took about $65.00 in parts, once again not that big a thing, but almost 4 months to get the parts : LOVE that J.B.!!! Mike it was thier RIFLES I was admiring...this is a family forum..I don't think you can say gun here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paule Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 If you don't want to weld up the bolt carrier, you can also mill or dremel off the section to the rear of the notch. Make that section flat and the same depth as the notch. I heard the JB idea too, but my little voice said "NO!". Thanks for confirming my fear, Kurt! I usually have to learn the hard way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 We used 2 part quick drying epoxy on one of our Benelli's before the 2003 SMM 3 Gun and it has, suprisingly, held up fine. The key was using a very small, rough bit and a Dremel to roughen the inside of the notch before placing the epoxy in it. The theory was to give the epoxy something to lock onto. This gun has seen 1000's of shells through it without a problem. YMMV I believe that Mark Buchanan, the guy from 3 Gun Gear was using the term "Ghost Load" at least 3 years ago. At least, that is the first time I heard it being used. Why he came up with it or where he picked it up, I have no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.E.Anglin Posted November 1, 2004 Author Share Posted November 1, 2004 Ok we will blame Buchanan....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Mark, you might as well blame Buchanan, we blame him for everything else. And it is fun to rile him up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtecrx Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 On the bottom of the bolt, at the rear, there is a grove machined across it. Simpley weld this up & refinish it & WALLA, the ghost load. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> does welding on the bolt have any effects on the hardness of the bolt, etc? Are there any special procedures that need to be followed? I have a MIG welder and it would be very easyto fill and smooth that little groove. What is the best way for a DIY to refinish, maybe some cold blue or is there anything better? Thanks for any replies. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Andy, with as little welding as this takes I dont think the heat is a problem. As for refinish, just blend and polish. But the rule changes lately have made this kind of a moot thing. Just about everone has gone to 9 in the gun to start. This can be done with a 23in tube so the need to ghost load has dissapeared.------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbritt Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Does anyone have a picture of this modification they could post........for those of us who still don't have a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtecrx Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Andy, with as little welding as this takes I dont think the heat is a problem. As for refinish, just blend and polish. But the rule changes lately have made this kind of a moot thing. Just about everone has gone to 9 in the gun to start. This can be done with a 23in tube so the need to ghost load has dissapeared.------Larry <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In order to get to 9 nine rounds in the gun to start instead of using a 22-23 inch tube I was planning un leaving the 18.5" barrell on my M1s90, buy an 8 shot extension from benny, and ghost load the 9th. I am real new to the sport (haven't even shot a match yet) so I am welcome to suggestions etc. lbritt, I can post a picture of my epoxy trial run to make sure I filled the right part of the bolt carrier and that it actaully works when my wife gets home with the digi-cam tomorrow. I can post pics of the weld job next weekend then I weld it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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