carolina flatfoot Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) Hey Guru's, I am having a rifle built and I have to admit am still learning alot. Three questions to start, Building a rifle that can shoot .308 from 100 to 1000 yards. - Looking at either a Mc Millian A5 or AICS, have shot the AICS and liked it, so I need to shoot a McM A4 or 5. - I have heard good and bad on barrels, Lilja 3 groove 1:11 or Rock Creek 5R with 1:11.27 twist? What kind of ammo will I shot, for now duty carry Fed 168 match but also want to reload in future. - Lastly on barrel length, I have heard 24 " is average but know some guys who swear with the 28" for shooting out to 1000? again I would like to have the option to shoot short and long distances. Thanks for your patience in reading my questions. Edited July 20, 2012 by carolina flatfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBros Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 If you were strictly shooting 1k, the 28" barrel would help out. We shoot to 1k with our 23" barrels all the time and it just requires more attention to the wind. The 308 doesn't gain as much velocity per inch of barrel as more of the performance based cartridges. Our 155's run 2850 in the 23" barrel and 2950 in a 28" barrel. The other question will be the intended usage of the rifle. Are you going to run a suppressor ever? Tactical Matches in your future? etc..... Now on the barrels. Lilja's have been hit or miss in my experience. Some of them are extremely tight and will limit velocity before one hits pressure. Rock barrels work extremely well, but getting them is a problem at times. I generally run Broughtons on everything. They run a little faster, easy to clean, and are extremely accurate. We ran 500 rounds through it in Bend last week, and it took 3 patches to clean it out, and it shot factory Hornady Match ammo right at 1/4moa. Shooting a 308 at 1k will force you to read conditions and in the long run make you a better shooter by being able to read those conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Hit it with a rock, if you can get one. It is tough to get anything from rock creek right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolina flatfoot Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 I appreciate the feedback. I may have an angle on a Rock Creek 5r. So you guys would recommend the barrels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Freeman Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I use a lot of Lilja barrels. Top shelf stuff as far as button cut goes. For cut barrels Brux or Krieger is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drglock Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 if you want a rock creek barrel try bugholes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donovan Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Rock wait times are tough ,have had them and are fine, Can pick up kriegers local(3gen shooters supply) no wait and all have been hammers..... Edited August 17, 2012 by Donovan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I run Brux or Benchmark in mine; the Benchmark is crazy accurate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncopenshooter Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 My buddy just changed out his Bartlein to a Benchmark and can't stop talking about how well it shoots. The only reason he didn't go back to a Bartlein was the wait time, but doesn't regret it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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