jkatz44 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 If I researched correctly, there is only an Open junior USA team. Why is there not a production team or another division also? Has it just always been this way ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Interesting question. Why is there one entire DIVISION (not category, mind you--I'm talking DIVISION!) that has never received any recognition or sponsorship from USPSA at the last several World Shoots--not even friggin' shirts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbeauxdawg Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Interesting question. Why is there one entire DIVISION (not category, mind you--I'm talking DIVISION!) that has never received any recognition or sponsorship from USPSA at the last several World Shoots--not even friggin' shirts?? Which division are you talking about? As for the OP try sending an email to Phil asking if he is thinking of adding a standard and production division junior team for the next World shoot? One possible reason is the expense of sending teams overseas, might be easier to have more teams when the World Shoot is held in Florida. Edited July 17, 2012 by lilbeauxdawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkatz44 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Ya, expense was what I was thinking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Most regions will only send a Junior Open Team. If we send Junior Standard and Production teams there is a fair chance there will be no-one to compete with. With about 1000 slots for the typical World Shoot there is a limit to how many different division/categories can be recognized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkatz44 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Oh, I see. Thanks for the info. Edited July 17, 2012 by jkatz44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhop Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Interesting question. Why is there one entire DIVISION (not category, mind you--I'm talking DIVISION!) that has never received any recognition or sponsorship from USPSA at the last several World Shoots--not even friggin' shirts?? Because it is DEAD and not growing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Interesting question. Why is there one entire DIVISION (not category, mind you--I'm talking DIVISION!) that has never received any recognition or sponsorship from USPSA at the last several World Shoots--not even friggin' shirts?? Because it is DEAD and not growing It's not at all dead, but I will admit it's not growing--and that's partially because of the persistent lack of support from USPSA in the past. There are substantially more people competing in Revolver Division than women shooters and junior shooters period. All should be encouraged by USPSA, but there is no good reason for the organization to start sponsoring "category" teams until all of the USPSA/IPSC-recognized divisions are taken care of first. jkatz44--I'm sorry I boosted your thread in a different direction than you intended with your question/comment. I do think it's wrong for USPSA to pay for junior Open shooters but not offer the same opportunity to junior shooters who compete in other divisions. I don't think it matters whether other countries send those teams or not. It's nice to talk about "team wins" but when it really comes down to it, IPSC shooting is an individual sport. USPSA should really be more fair in how it divvies up the financial support for the World Shoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkatz44 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Ya, I was just thinking that limiting juniors to Open limits who can get on the team and ultimately who goes to the world shoot. Im not complaining just wondering the reason behind it. Edited July 18, 2012 by jkatz44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ong45 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I could be wrong but i remember mixed junior teams in the past. They just took the percentages whatever division and added it to the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhop Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 It's not at all dead, but I will admit it's not growing--and that's partially because of the persistent lack of support from USPSA in the past. There are substantially more people competing in Revolver Division than women shooters and junior shooters period. All should be encouraged by USPSA, but there is no good reason for the organization to start sponsoring "category" teams until all of the USPSA/IPSC-recognized divisions are taken care of first. jkatz44--I'm sorry I boosted your thread in a different direction than you intended with your question/comment. I do think it's wrong for USPSA to pay for junior Open shooters but not offer the same opportunity to junior shooters who compete in other divisions. I don't think it matters whether other countries send those teams or not. It's nice to talk about "team wins" but when it really comes down to it, IPSC shooting is an individual sport. USPSA should really be more fair in how it divvies up the financial support for the World Shoots. i agree with all this especially sponsoring the all divisions before anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkatz44 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) Found it thanks to Phil. http://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-announcements-details.php?IPSC-Nationals-Registration-World-Shoot-Selection-Policy-81 Edited July 19, 2012 by jkatz44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedodge Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Im with mike on this one revolver division gets the short end of the stick big time in uspsa, not complaining i love revo and uspsa but it doesnt get the support that other divisions do i thinkt hats what makes the growth lack some. its one of the funnest and hardest divisions in uspsa and has some of the nicest people. Also tho Jason I hope you can make the junior team your a hell of a shooter great job at the pro am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkatz44 Posted July 22, 2012 Author Share Posted July 22, 2012 Thanks Joey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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