kmca Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Our small club is getting its USPSA affiliation soon. We have 2 certified RO's that atttend occasionally and 1 RO that's there almost every month. Do we need a CRO/RM to be at the matches? Do you have to be a certified RM to submit scores? I'm very confused, heck I don't even know if this is the proper forum to place this question?? I know it's a big question but an answer would be appreciated. Edited June 30, 2012 by kmca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 If you advertise your club to shooters around your locale, you'll get real RO's soon enough who are coming out to shoot your matches. Put 'em to work; they're used to it everywhere else, they won't mind. Certified RM to upload scores? No, otherwise no club's results would ever get uploaded. No, anyone who has a computer and the match file and is listed with uspsa.org as an authorized uploader for your club can upload results and activity reporting for your matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 The club contact is usually the one who submits scores to USPSA, but that person can delegate and authorize someone else to do it. To get started all you need is 10 USPSA members to sign an initial roster and submit an application. It nice to have RO's, RM's, and/or a CRO, but not required...but someone has to be up on the rulebook to keep the matches consistent. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bear Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 It is not needed, but it is beneficial if at least one member is a current or past RO. They can then train the others in basic procedures. I was an "RO" for a couple of years before I was able to take the official class. The only real requirement for teaching new RO's prior to them taking the class is that ALL range commands be taught as they are NOW, not how they did it 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 Thanks for the answers. We just got our new club packet from USPSA, but it's at the club and I won't have a chance to look it over until the weekend. I suspect we'll advertise our shoots but the club is a long way from civilization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 CA has a lot of shooters, you'll be able to draw shooters as long as your club consistently presents fun and interesting matches. Just make sure your match day doesn't conflict with anybody nearby... Your section coordinator should have helped you with setting this up to prevent scheduling conflicts and give you as much chance as success as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Thanks for the answers. We just got our new club packet from USPSA, but it's at the club and I won't have a chance to look it over until the weekend. I suspect we'll advertise our shoots but the club is a long way from civilization Gilroy? Where is the club? BTW: Appendix A1 of the rulebook outlines what you need for different level matches. Later, Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 The club is a couple of miles west of Mariposa. Gilroy is a metropolis compared to Mariposa. And I'm going to look at A1 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 The club is a couple of miles west of Mariposa. Gilroy is a metropolis compared to Mariposa. And I'm going to look at A1 right now. That is out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 Since you pointed me to the rule book, what is 7.3.2 about? Does that mean the designated RM/MD, can't shoot the match or is it supposed to mean, the MD/RM has no official standing while competing only during the specific time that they are shooting? 7.3.2 References in these rules to Range Officials (e.g. “Range Officer”, “Range Master” etc.), mean personnel who have been officially appointed by match organizers to actually serve in an official capacity at the match. Persons who are certified Range Officials, but who are actually participating in the match as regular competitors, have no standing or authority as Range Officials for that match. Such persons should therefore not participate in the match wearing garments bearing Range Official insignia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 7.2.3 has a lot words in it, but the core to it is: Persons who are certified Range Officials, but who are actually participating in the match as regular competitors, have no standing or authority as Range Officials for that match. The range officials can compete in the match as provided for in 6.5.2. Often, for Level I matches, there is no "pre-match", so the main match is where they end up competing anyway. The RO class teaches that there are a few situations when the range official takes off the range official hat: for the duration that the range official is the current competitor for a CoF, for a dropped gun situation where it is the range official's gun that has been dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Since you pointed me to the rule book, what is 7.3.2 about? Does that mean the designated RM/MD, can't shoot the match or is it supposed to mean, the MD/RM has no official standing while competing only during the specific time that they are shooting? 7.3.2 References in these rules to Range Officials (e.g. "Range Officer", "Range Master" etc.), mean personnel who have been officially appointed by match organizers to actually serve in an official capacity at the match. Persons who are certified Range Officials, but who are actually participating in the match as regular competitors, have no standing or authority as Range Officials for that match. Such persons should therefore not participate in the match wearing garments bearing Range Official insignia. What that rule says is that even though I am a CRO but I am not working the match in question I have no authority as an official. In other words I can not DQ a shooter unless I am working THAT match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 Okay, I got it. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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