Ted Murphy Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) The current fad Tacticool Appendix Carry method the OP is talking about is inside the waist band by the way. It has the "boys" a little better boresighted than your typical large offset USPSA legal appendix rig. That is the one I am most concerned with. USPSA appendix holsters (not talking about the CR type, the old school leather and kydex ones) are also quite different in design than IDPA generally allows. most of them violate the 3/4" rule for starters, plus it would be near impossible to conceal them using a vest or jacket and do the Walmart test (hands straight out, level to the ground.) FWIW, USPSA allowed cross draw when I started in the sport. (and they still may) Try to get a MD to allow it though. Ted Edited April 1, 2012 by Ted Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss1622 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 I think the rule of keeping the holster behind the shooters centerline keeps things simple and easy to officiate… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) The current fad Tacticool Appendix Carry method the OP is talking about is inside the waist band by the way. It has the "boys" a little better boresighted than your typical large offset USPSA legal appendix rig. That is the one I am most concerned with. USPSA appendix holsters (not talking about the CR type, the old school leather and kydex ones) are also quite different in design than IDPA generally allows. most of them violate the 3/4" rule for starters, plus it would be near impossible to conceal them using a vest or jacket and do the Walmart test (hands straight out, level to the ground.) FWIW, USPSA allowed cross draw when I started in the sport. (and they still may) Try to get a MD to allow it though. Ted With all due respect Ted, it is NOT a new form of carry unless you consider 30yrs new. It has just been recently brought to light in the IDPA area. To answer JAR's question, read your question again Jeff and the answer is in there. IDPA set the rules of behind the center line to set themselves off from another sport. I personally feel from what I see, it is a very good rule due to the people I see coming out to matches. They are NOT the typical forum member from here and need as much regulation for safety reasons as they can get. Appendix carry has been around for a long time and will remain for concealed carry. As a IWB carry for an IDPA match, I can not watch the gun as a SO and I am afraid I am a little uncomfortable with that. I have worked with people that carry a gun as part of their job. Having run their training, if you can make me nervous on the line, you are really doing something Edited April 2, 2012 by Round_Gun_Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I never said it was new, just a current fad. People reinvent the wheel all the time. This is appendix carry's time as it has gotten popular in certain tacticool circles. Funny part is, the biggest appendix carry guy I know just quit doing it. He got an office job and put on 20 pounds. Ted Edited April 4, 2012 by Ted Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GForceLizard Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 ... I personally feel from what I see, it is a very good rule due to the people I see coming out to matches. They are NOT the typical forum member from here and need as much regulation for safety reasons as they can get. ... As a IWB carry for an IDPA match, I can not watch the gun as a SO and I am afraid I am a little uncomfortable with that. ... Yup. Our IDPA club does a lot to bring in new shooters. SOs see shooters with poor finger and muzzle disipline. A lot of the time it's as much about teaching them safety as it is shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jar Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 The current fad Tacticool Appendix Carry method the OP is talking about is inside the waist band by the way. It has the "boys" a little better boresighted than your typical large offset USPSA legal appendix rig. That is the one I am most concerned with. USPSA appendix holsters (not talking about the CR type, the old school leather and kydex ones) are also quite different in design than IDPA generally allows. most of them violate the 3/4" rule for starters, plus it would be near impossible to conceal them using a vest or jacket and do the Walmart test (hands straight out, level to the ground.) FWIW, USPSA allowed cross draw when I started in the sport. (and they still may) Try to get a MD to allow it though. Ted The 'tacticool' AIWB is perfectly legal in USPSA too, it's just not common, because most USPSA shooters are there for the game. I know there are some people who'd rather shoot IDPA philosophy wise, but shoot USPSA because their actual carry gear is legal there and not in IDPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Jar, I never said IWB was illegal. But I cannot remember the last time I saw an IWB at a USPSA match (and I run a monthly USPSA match) so I considered it rather immaterial for the discussion at hand. With regards to people wanting to shoot IDPA but have illegal gear. I had some hipster come to my IDPA match this month to proudly tell me his gear was illegal for IDPA so he would not be shooting tonight. I asked him what it was, and it was a full-size ported 9mm handgun. My thought at the time was why you want to port a full size carry 9mm? I'm trying to decide why he told me that because he honestly believed he had the best carry gear or he wanted me to see how comfortable he was on his cross. My carry holster and mag pouch is not IDPA legal either, but I just switch them out for when i shoot. Everyone has a different plan on that one though, but I am not very rigid on such things. Ted Edited April 5, 2012 by Ted Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysued Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Although my daily carry is appendix carry, I would NOT like to see it in competition. Too many people have trouble drawing from the hip never mind appendix. . As for cross draw, well I really like that but again, NOT in IDPA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMFM8SeW51E out of town right now..but that shooter in this clip was an IPSIC shooter..any remember his name?? Jim Zubiena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysued Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 BTW, Vasectomies should be performed by trained professionals, not by Glock, S&W or Colt!! OY!! Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Hunter Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Natural Selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkin Chunker Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Natural Selection +1 Life would be so much simpler if we just got out of Darwin's way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootaglock Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I carried a kahr pm9 for a good while in a belt holster in appendix position. Comfortable and convenient to draw, but I stopped b/c I couldn't get used to where the muzzle was pointed when I sat down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerassassin22 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) Yeah...why would you want to allow anything that useful into a sport that's supposed to be based on defensive handgun use? There's nothing unsafe about it, and not being able to shoot from where I carry means that I, and a LOT of other folks will not do the whole IDPA thing-even though there are many appealing aspects. Exactly my thoughts many people are way to serious about IDPA I thought only "USPSA" had "GAMERS". The purpose of IDPA is getting lost its only reinforces some of my opinions about IDPA. Edited April 9, 2012 by deerassassin22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Natural Selection +1 Life would be so much simpler if we just got out of Darwin's way. CLOSED, by Natural Selection. (Read the Rules here, folks) - Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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