Huck Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Has anybody out there ever put a ta11 on an m1a, How does it feel, are there problems with eye relief or ejection, does the combo work well together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I think the biggest problem with optics and M1A is the stock. If you don't get a comb piece that's higher, you end up with a chin weld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huck Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 Yeah, I've been through that, I have a homemade cheek peice that is held on with electrical tape, no style points but functional. I currently have a 10X mil dot on top and would like a little faster sight. It is a tack driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulter6 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I did this as an experiment. I have an ACOG I use on my AR15, so I tried in on my Bush rifle. I do not use this setup, I just put the ACOG on the mount to take this pic. Here's a pic. The mount is Brookfield and the ACOG mount is an ARMS 19S; as you can see it sits very high. The ARMS 18 is a bit lower and you may be able to find an ACOG mount that will sit the scope a hair lower, but all in all what you see is what you get. I tried looking through my ACOG and it's just too awkward. There's no cheek weld and you really can't get close enough to get optimal eye relief because of the full stock on the M14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huck Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 Coulter6, thanks for the pic, does it set alot higher than the other scope that was on it? I have an arms mount that sets much lower and that might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopalong Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Huck You may want to try this.... Get on the Springfield website, get one of the forward mount scope mounts that are now available and the heat sheild for the Scout/Squad rifle and put your Acog on it. I have a Scout/Squad and an Aimpoint on it, the cheek weld is the same as shooting Iron sights. GOOD LUCK M1A's RULE !!!!! SAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Even with the arms mount, that'll get you about 1/4" lower. It's still way too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulter6 Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 A traditional scope sits much lower than the ACOG. I had a Leupold Mark 4 M3 in ARMS 22L rings on the rifle and the rear eye piece of the scope was about 1/4 above the rear iron sight. With a cheek rest, the scope was easy to sight through with a good cheek weld. I have an ARMS 18 and like previously stated, it's only about a 1/4" lower than the Brookfield. I believe a TA51 ACOG mount will also lower the ACOG, but only by 1/8". The problem mounting an ACOG on a scout mount is the eye relief. The TA01B has an eye relief of 1.5" and the TA11 series has a 2.5" relief. The scout mount needs a scope with a good 7-8 inches of eye relief. The Burris Scout and Leupold Scout IER (Intermediate Eye Relief) scopes are great for the scout mount, but only give you 2-3X. I've tried the Burris, and it worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwiz Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 From the pictures I've saw of US troops in Afganistan, there were a few Marines using the M14 w/ the Trijicon TA-11. They had them mounted either just forward or over the bolt. Couldn't see what type of mount they were using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huck Posted June 28, 2004 Author Share Posted June 28, 2004 I have looked for pics of ta-11s on m14s and havn't been able to find any. it's driving me crazy. if anybody can find one I would appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwiz Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 I spent some time over the weekend looking for where I saw the pics of the Marines w/ the ACOG on the M14, but didn't find it. I think it was in TIME <--note proper capitalization, but can't be 100% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 This? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwiz Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 The Marine was facing the other way and he was holding it at a low ready. It might be the same guy, just a different picture. Where did you find that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huck Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 Thanks dude, Now if i could just talk to that marine and see how he likes that setup, just joking, thanks for the pic, I'll blow it up and get a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulter6 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Here's a few more: From Different's M14 site: Different's M14 Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 There was a good article a few months ago in ARMY TIMES about snipers (or at least designated marksmen) in the STRYKER Brigade using M14s with Holosights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Check with Trijicon. They told me they were making an extended (rearward) mount for just that application. We tried a TA-1 on an M1A quite a while back and found it just to high to be really useful but if you really want to Trijicon can probable hook you up!! KURTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huck Posted July 8, 2004 Author Share Posted July 8, 2004 I read on another site that trijicon is making a TAO1b that is calibrated for 308 anybody got any experience with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulter6 Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 I had a TA01B on a FAL for a short time. It's a great sight, but the problem I had was from the recoil. The eye relief is 1.5" and I kept getting smacked in the glasses from the recoil. I think the TA11 series is a better choice for a .308 rifle since it has a longer eye relief -- 2.4". I used a TA11E and found it much better and more forgiving on the recoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwiz Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Another option is the US Optics SN-4 or SN-12 which were designed to better the ACOG and Elcan sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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