foxriver6 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 What is the criteria USPSA use's to determine whether your score in a Major is used for classification purposes? I tried searching but couldn't find anything definitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Page 8 here: http://www.uspsa.org/classifiers/Intro.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxriver6 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxriver6 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 In order for overall scores from a Level II or Level III match to be entered as a classifier, the match director must submit an Application for Level II or Level III match with the “Results for Classification” check box marked. Please note that there is no guarantee that the overall results will be used. As a minimum requirement, the results and competitor list will be reviewed at the USPSA office to determine whether enough top shooters completed the match and performed at a level high enough to be considered a national standard. If the match is determined to have satisfied all of the requirements, the final score of the match may be entered as a classification score for each shooter. Each division is evaluated based on this criteria so it may be possible for scores from one division to be used while the other division is not. So the way I interpret this, there is NO specific requirement for the number of GM's in a particular division for the match to be counted towards classification? Also, if the MD doesn't check the box as indicated it will not be used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn jones Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) if in a level 2 or level 3 match, there are 3 GM's in a division, that division is counted as a classifier. lynn Edited September 30, 2011 by lynn jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxriver6 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 That's what I always thought, I was just wondering where that was written or is that just the standard that has always been used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZinSC Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) if in a level 2 or level 3 match, there are 3 GM's in a division, that division is counted as a classifier. lynn I may be wrong, but I believe that is more or less a rule of thumb. I looked a few months ago for this in actual black and white in the rules, and I couldn't find it. Plus, the way I understand it, is, even if you have 3 GM's, if any/all of them don't finish with GM-like performances, the MD might not sumbit the results as a classifier. That is why I believe they put this in the rules as was quoted "and performed at a level high enough to be considered a national standard." Gives them wiggle room in case two GM's tank the match. Edited September 30, 2011 by CZinSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Anybody know if the Range Master or Tournament Director NROI courses cover this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 if in a level 2 or level 3 match, there are 3 GM's in a division, that division is counted as a classifier. Almost right. Among the criteria the office looks at is whether or not there were at least 3 GMs who performed at a GM-level (i.e., a level that qualifies it as a national-standard-setting performance). So... if there are 3 GMs in a division, but... two of them got beat by a B-class shooter, or they finished at 100%, 75%, 65%, or ... you get the idea. The review at the office is a little bit subjective, but just the fact that there were 3 GM's in the match isn't enough, on its own, to get it counted as a classifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Area 8 counted as a classifier in Limited for me. There were 5 GMs, Travis T won, and the closest GM behind him was in the 87% range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Sounds like magic to me. On the other hand, as the quote goes "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." I just wish that technology was described in black and white somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Technology. LOL! Thanks! I found just 1 GM in that article, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Area 8 counted as a classifier in Limited for me. There were 5 GMs, Travis T won, and the closest GM behind him was in the 87% range Yeah, like I said, it's subjective. In a case like that, I'm willing to be that it was fairly easy for the Powers That Be at the office to decide that Travis's performance was a viable standard-setting 100%... and that he simply took the other GMs to school along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 And proof that the classification system is pretty darn accurate. I have a 69% average but had a few mistakes at Area 8. I finished 62% of Travis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 if in a level 2 or level 3 match, there are 3 GM's in a division, that division is counted as a classifier. Almost right. Among the criteria the office looks at is whether or not there were at least 3 GMs who performed at a GM-level (i.e., a level that qualifies it as a national-standard-setting performance). So... if there are 3 GMs in a division, but... two of them got beat by a B-class shooter, or they finished at 100%, 75%, 65%, or ... you get the idea. The review at the office is a little bit subjective, but just the fact that there were 3 GM's in the match isn't enough, on its own, to get it counted as a classifier. Yeah... any ole GMs won't always cut it... but if Sevigny or Vogel are in your division... it's a pretty good guess that those will count! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Sounds like magic to me. On the other hand, as the quote goes "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." I just wish that technology was described in black and white somewhere. 'bout time you got a new member title... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Sounds like magic to me. On the other hand, as the quote goes "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." I just wish that technology was described in black and white somewhere. 'bout time you got a new member title... LOL! Thanks, Flex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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