bigcraig Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 All you folks that are running a TS conversion upper on your STI widebody frames, I have some questions. 1) Do you find that the TS mags need some type of bigger/weighted basepad, something that simulates the feel of a Dawson basepad? Possibly something made to cushion an impact when dropped? 2) Do you find the TS mags a PIA to load and wish they had a retraction button to compress the spring/follower, like a Ruger 22/45 mag? Note, I have a TS kit for use on my Limited gun and have 6 mags. With very limited use, I have found the above questions/issues could be addressed, somehow. Any thoughts from the peanut gallery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahai808 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Does anyone have the Rim Edge Ruger? they look sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 here's my SC open rimfire gun which started life as a Browning SS Buckmark Camper .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 My 22 open Ruger Mark III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepoloman Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 marvel in 1911 frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdj Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I set up a gun with a 22 top end for a local league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 That optic is bigger than the gun ....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksf141 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 hey guys, i have a tacsol pac lite upper on a new Volquartsen frame. I noticed the drilled holes on the pac lite receiver match that of a standard ruger but when I tried to take the weaver rail off my factory upper, and put in on the pac lite upper, the screws would turn in maybe one two threads then get so tight they would stop and i didnt want to force it. Do the tacsol pac lite receivers have a different thread pattern than the factory ruger? Are you only able to use tacsol scope rails for this reason? Let me know, i dont want to force it and strip threads but I really want to use a non-tacsol scope rail if possible.Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 They use different screws. Factory steel uses 6/48 screws and the tacsol uses 6/40 screws. You can buy the screws for the scope mount. I run an alchin on mine with the cmore and ordered the 6/40 fillister screws Many a tacsol has been messed up by trying to force the factory screws in. With the right screws and proper degreasing the scope mount is solid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksf141 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 They use different screws. Factory steel uses 6/48 screws and the tacsol uses 6/40 screws. You can buy the screws for the scope mount. I run an alchin on mine with the cmore and ordered the 6/40 fillister screws Many a tacsol has been messed up by trying to force the factory screws in. With the right screws and proper degreasing the scope mount is solid Whew, thanks for that info. Where were you able to buy the tacsol 6/40 screws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred5876r Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) I have three: 1) S&W 41 with Clark Custom Barrel and C-More RTS. 2) Nelson Custom (formerly Marvel) 1911 conversion with threaded barrel and comp and C-More RTS2. 3) S&W 617 revolver 4" with Leupold Deltapoint on an Allchin mount. Edited March 3, 2014 by fred5876r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2a Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I just picked up a TacSol 2211 upper for a new build. I did it before I saw the Nelson Custom conversion. Anybody know if the Nelson 2011 mags will work with the TacSol Upper? The price point on them sure is a lot better!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveShootLive Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'd rather shoot .22 than waste money on airsoft toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksf141 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I bought screws from the guy mentioned by Ekujustice above. Great deal and the screws work great in the pac lite upper. He sells Torx head stuff as well. As soon as I get everything mounted up, I will post some eye candy. bluesman2a: do you know anything about the Nelson conversion? How do they stack up to the Tacsol and Marvel target units? Im looking to buy a 22 1911 setup if anyone has one they are selling. Prefer the brands just mentioned on a decent 1911 or 2011 frame. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2a Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 bluesman2a: do you know anything about the Nelson conversion? How do they stack up to the Tacsol and Marvel target units? Im looking to buy a 22 1911 setup if anyone has one they are selling. Prefer the brands just mentioned on a decent 1911 or 2011 frame. Thanks. Sorry, but I do not, The first time I saw one was on fred5876r's post above. I wasn't aware anybody other than TacSol made 2011-22 uppers/mags. I got the railed/threaded version. It fits well on several 1911 frames I have (kimber/RIA/etc). I bought it from Shooter's Connection and they shipped fast. Price wise it was a LOT more than the Nelson base unit, but at nearly $100 each, the mags are really making me not like it quite as much. As somebody mentioned in another thread, I tried GSG mags in a single-stack frame and they do not feed for this conversion. So a quick comparison: TacSol Threaded upper: $550 Nelson threaded upper: $450 + 129 for sight/rail combo = $579, for true apples/apples comparison. Tacsol double-stack mag: $93 Nelson double-stack mag: $40 Tac Sol single-stack mag: $97 Nelson single stack mag $25 So you pay more for the Nelson up front, but you can recoup that on the back end in mags assuming you want more than one. Anybody have any more input on the Nelson offering and mag compatability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksf141 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 bluesman2a: do you know anything about the Nelson conversion? How do they stack up to the Tacsol and Marvel target units? Im looking to buy a 22 1911 setup if anyone has one they are selling. Prefer the brands just mentioned on a decent 1911 or 2011 frame. Thanks. Sorry, but I do not, The first time I saw one was on fred5876r's post above. I wasn't aware anybody other than TacSol made 2011-22 uppers/mags. I got the railed/threaded version. It fits well on several 1911 frames I have (kimber/RIA/etc). I bought it from Shooter's Connection and they shipped fast. Price wise it was a LOT more than the Nelson base unit, but at nearly $100 each, the mags are really making me not like it quite as much. As somebody mentioned in another thread, I tried GSG mags in a single-stack frame and they do not feed for this conversion. So a quick comparison: TacSol Threaded upper: $550 Nelson threaded upper: $450 + 129 for sight/rail combo = $579, for true apples/apples comparison. Tacsol double-stack mag: $93 Nelson double-stack mag: $40 Tac Sol single-stack mag: $97 Nelson single stack mag $25 So you pay more for the Nelson up front, but you can recoup that on the back end in mags assuming you want more than one. Anybody have any more input on the Nelson offering and mag compatability? Thanks for the input, I suppose to throw another on in the mix: Marvel Unit 1 Target with combo rail and threaded: $630 Wide stack magazine: $63 Single stack mag: $38 Thats why I was curious about the Nelson because Ive often heard the Marvel referred to as the gold standard for accuracy on these conversions. Another, even more interesting comparison, would be the Advantage Arms Target conversion. It looks like an identical design as the Marvel and tacsol units but much less expensive. Curious how it stacks up on accuracy/reliability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynes_world_45 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2a Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Thanks for the input, I suppose to throw another on in the mix: Marvel Unit 1 Target with combo rail and threaded: $630 Wide stack magazine: $63 Single stack mag: $38 I'm not entirely sure it's "another one" if you look at the web page here: http://www.nelsoncustomguns.com/22lr-conversion/ You can see they clearly tout "Designed by Bob Marvel" which would lead me to believe that they are using the same basic blueprints, but we all know that implementation can vary widely from vendor to vendor. Would be interesting to see what all will interchange between these. Ideally I could wind up running the Nelson mags in my Tac Sol upper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heckler Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 All you folks that are running a TS conversion upper on your STI widebody frames, I have some questions. 1) Do you find that the TS mags need some type of bigger/weighted basepad, something that simulates the feel of a Dawson basepad? Possibly something made to cushion an impact when dropped? 2) Do you find the TS mags a PIA to load and wish they had a retraction button to compress the spring/follower, like a Ruger 22/45 mag? Note, I have a TS kit for use on my Limited gun and have 6 mags. With very limited use, I have found the above questions/issues could be addressed, somehow. Any thoughts from the peanut gallery! I use a TS conversion on my wide body STI but I sold my TS mags. They seamed to get grit in them very easy and at only 10 rounds just weren't practical for my open practice. Mags pictured above are STI polymer which I do not think they make any more. The "basepad" is cut from a rubber squeegee. I can load 20 rounds in these mags and they work very well. I use a modified glock speed loader to load them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2a Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Mags pictured above are STI polymer which I do not think they make any more. The "basepad" is cut from a rubber squeegee. I can load 20 rounds in these mags and they work very well. I use a modified glock speed loader to load them. Heckler (or anybody, really), do you know where one could find these magazines, or something of similar design now? I really like the idea of a high-cap 22 mag like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heckler Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Mags pictured above are STI polymer which I do not think they make any more. The "basepad" is cut from a rubber squeegee. I can load 20 rounds in these mags and they work very well. I use a modified glock speed loader to load them. Heckler (or anybody, really), do you know where one could find these magazines, or something of similar design now? I really like the idea of a high-cap 22 mag like this. I wish I knew, I would buy about 10 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJR05 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thanks for the input, I suppose to throw another on in the mix: Marvel Unit 1 Target with combo rail and threaded: $630 Wide stack magazine: $63 Single stack mag: $38 I'm not entirely sure it's "another one" if you look at the web page here: http://www.nelsoncustomguns.com/22lr-conversion/ You can see they clearly tout "Designed by Bob Marvel" which would lead me to believe that they are using the same basic blueprints, but we all know that implementation can vary widely from vendor to vendor. Would be interesting to see what all will interchange between these. Ideally I could wind up running the Nelson mags in my Tac Sol upper. NightHawk also has their version of the "Designed by Bob Marvel" .22 conversion available... these are the latest (Gen2)version of the original Marvel Prec.. conversion. There are subtle packaging diffs/options tween them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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