Paul-the new guy Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I have a XL650, I have loaded a few hundred rounds of .40 S&W and I have all of the stuff I need to load .223 but I am reading on here quite a bit and it looks like it may not be the easiest thing to load on my new press... I have Varget powder, Ramshot TAC and 8208XBR, I think that is it any way. I know the 8208 will meter ok because it is very small grain but I only have enough of that for about 100 rounds. I have loaded .223 on my single stage, around 1000 rounds so I understand the dynamics I am just worried about the powder not metering properly and the bullets getting hung up in the seating die etc... Any tips for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianATL Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Tac works great in my 650 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Even Varget will meter ok. There's some thread you can search for on what people have done to help it work smoother. It worked fine for me when I tried it. I think the most common problem, people don't wait long enough for the powder to drop. Fill a case up, turn it upside-down, see how long it takes for the powder to come out. You need to allow at least that long to get it in there. lol If you have military brass, the biggest problem you'll have with a 650 is if you have crimped primer pockets. Lots of threads on ways to fix them or you might look at getting pre-processed brass. Boat tail bullets seat easier, but anything works. You can look at beveling the case mouths, see if it helps you, some people swear by it. Really, it's just what works for you. I do prefer the Redding Competion Seat die.. but the Dillon is ok (I think I tossed out any Leee rifle dies, hated them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 AA2230 is a fairly good powder to shoot and meters as well any pistol powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Morcillo Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Ditto on the AA2230, nice flake powder the meters evenly. Make sure your case preperation is correct, especially OAL of resized brass, to avoid headspace issues. My pet load is 24.5 gr 2230, 55gr FMJBT, CCI. This is accurate, easy on the gun and the brass, but work up your own load. Varget is good for the heavier bullets, 68-69, etc., but you'll have to polish the powder die funnel to avoid the sticks of powder from getting stuck. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 My pet load is 24.5 gr 2230, 55gr FMJBT, CCI. Same here - gets me about 3000 fps at sea level. FWIW, the same load works well with 69gr SMK's for almost the same ballistic curve for the same zero out to about 400yds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSteve Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 H335 flows real good in the Dillon measure. I would save the Varget for bullets that are a little heavier. If you use it for 55gr bullets, the case is so full that a little powder will slosh out. That is ok untill it builds up in the primer system or somewhere else, and things come to a screeching halt. If you want to load a ton of 223 the EASY way, order brass that is processed and primed from Scharch, dump about 25gr of H335 in it, with a 55gr MG, and just crank the handle. It can't get any easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 25 grains of Varget only comes up to the inside shoulder of the case. this is for a 55 grain montana gold . I've never had a problem with the powder getting flung out the case especially on my 650 with its autoindexing shellplate and kinda abrupt stops. I can hear it drop through the dillon powder measure/die so I only bring the handle back up when the noise stops. A'yup, if you spill enough powder by accident it will jam up the primer carousel on the 650. it kinda sucks because you have to remove the wire ejector, the shell plate, and then the whole primer assembly, blow or wipe out the kernels of powder and then put it all back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-the new guy Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 loaded about 250 rounds last night..... in about 25 minutes! Yeah, it rocks! Love my Dillon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Morcillo Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 It may be me, but I single load all the rifle rounds on my Dillon. It goes fast, but I can feel the bullet seat and know if I've got a split case mouth or weak neck tension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeman711 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I use H-335 for any loading over 300yds. and surplus 844 for all loads under 300yds. Load all on a 650,no problems. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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