wmspdi Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I am thinking about building an unlimited/open gun for GSSF and USPSA. I had planned on using a ported G35 as a base gun. This would allow me to make Major Power Factor without having to hot rod my handloads. I dropped that plan due to comments I read regarding .40 S&W magazine capacity. Currently my options are: Start with a G17 and replace the stock parts with a barrel/comp, C-More STS, lightweight striker, springs, rod, trigger work, mag well... or G34 with a 4 port Lone Wolf barrel, C-More STS, lightweight striker, springs, rod, trigger work, mag well... The advantage to using the G34 as a base would be a feel close to my G34 IDPA gun (and G35 Limited gun), the ability to remove the barrel for cleaning, compatabilty with my G34/35 holster, slightly shorted overall length, better balance and much lower cost to build the gun. My concerns and questions are: 1- Will I get enough energy from the ported G34 barrel to eliminate muzzel lift with minor and major loads? 2- Since a ported G34 barrel has a slightly shorter length of solid barrel before the ports start bleeding off gas (compared to a G17 barrel and compensator) will I be able to make Major 9 with handloads. BTW- for those who like to say "use the search function"... been there and done that. Although I have a Springfield TRP, and love the 1911/2011 flatform, an STI/SVI is out of my budget range at this time, plus it could not be used for GSSF. I can buy a either of the Glock base guns listed above with a Blue Label LEO discount keeping the cost down. Cost is a BIG factor, but I don't want to waste time and money on something doomed to fail from the start. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the duck of death Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I have 2 G 34 open guns. Both have KKM barrels and KKM 4 port comps. One has a melted DR w/7 min dot and a "THE" mag well the other a Fast Fire II w/4 min dot (I like the 4 min dot) and a heavy ICE mag well. The FFII is plenty bright and easier to place for long shots. I made recoil rods out of full length 1911 rods and turned them down so they take ISMI recoil springs. I really like the G34 for major 9, the longer barrel makes it easier to make power factor, are super reliable and shoot very soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Question 1 - NO Question 2 - Yeah, sort of, but see #1 I would talk to John at SJC and talk to Billy at Jager Products. Betting that both will try to talk you into a G17 with a true compensator and they would both be right. A ported barrel alone is only legal for Open but not competitive in Open. My own preferences - others might disagree - are for 1st - lightest, shortest trigger possible 2nd - heaviest possible gun 3rd - very low mounted, bright dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockcomma Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I've had every combination imaginable and Eric is right. I have 2 SJC guns and they are the best open Glocks I have ever shot. One has a stainless CCF frame and is heavy, it wouldn't work for GSSF but it shoots so soft. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I shoot a Glock 17 with a Jager Kit (link) and really like it. Adding a comp to a Glock 24 would make it SUPER long...well beyond 6 inches fwiw. Shooting 9 major without a comp is not going to make a very effective Open gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmspdi Posted May 11, 2010 Author Share Posted May 11, 2010 Between the responses posted here (and on another forum where I asked this question) it looks like my best option will be a G17 with a Jager kit. It may not be as competative as an STI/SVI 2011 style gun but it gets me into the game for a price point I can handle. Since I can buy the G17 for the Glock LEO Blue Label price and a Jager/Lone Wolf barrel package I could do the entire project for under $1,000. I will just have to be carefull working up my 9 Major loads for the G17. Thanks for the respones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 It may not be as competative as an STI/SVI 2011 style gun I respectful disagree. Your gun is just a tool and your choice is just fine. This thing is all about the craft. The Jager set-up is one h@ll of a value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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