Bucky Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Last night I was doing some mods on my two STI .40s and both these d*mn screws / collars / bushings (WTH you call them) stripped on me. I'm using good Snap On allen wrenches, but it doesn't seem to matter. Had to drill one out, but I finally got the other one out without the drill, but the part is ruined. Guess I'll have to order a pile of these and change them each time I take it apart. (Hmm, maybe that's the intention). Seems to me there has to be a better way to attach this in the front. Man.. I should have kept the Caspian .40 Much simpiler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted December 31, 2003 Author Share Posted December 31, 2003 So, I'm trying to order just the front screws and bushings. SV doesn't even list it on their site. STI does list them and I can buy online. GREAT.... But wait... there's a catch. STI has a minimum $250 order. SIGH Hopefully I can call in the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Bucky, The last time I messed with mine, I was replacing the trigger and Dave Dawson said, "...you might want to replace the grip screw bushings too". I had a hard time (not as bad as you though) with mine too and I was glad I listened to him. They came in a kit containing all the parts. It was definately worth the extra few dollars. Give Dave a try, he's always been good to me. Regards, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos Custom Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Bucky we have the screws, no minimum order. I also have some Torx plus screws that are much more resistant to strip out. They are a little long and have to be trimmed back but they are worth the effort if you have been having problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted December 31, 2003 Author Share Posted December 31, 2003 Brazo's: Very cool. I will order some. Seems like the sleeve side strips as well. I assume that you don't have Torx sleeves? That would be very cool!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos Custom Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 The heads are torx the threads are standard 4-40. I usually use blue loctite on one side of the sleeve only (don't locktite both sides) and then take the same side off each time. If the screws are too long you will screw them together in the middle and then when you try to get them tighter they will tend to strip out the sleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Expanding just a tad on what Bob says 'cause it's not so obvious... there are 3 parts to the front-attachment point-- two screws and one threaded sleeve both screws go into. Most of the time one screw is loctited or otherwise stuck to the sleeve so it appears to be one part, but it's really two. The Torx deal sounds like the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted December 31, 2003 Author Share Posted December 31, 2003 Yep Shred, that was the part I was missing. I called up Bob at Brazos and he filled me in. Was very helpful, and had the parts... and I didn't have to spend $250 bucks! Thanks again, Bob!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn jones Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 and bucky.. why didn't you have a spare set in your parts bin in the first place? shame.. shame... did you order two sets?.. lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 If you use one Torx and one Allen head screw...then Loctite the Allen head...you should remember...every time...which side to crank on and which side to hold. Works for me, actual milage may vary, not for the other use. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Bob comes through again. You're the man! Sorry I didn't suggest you earlier.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherErik Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Bucky, next time you need factory STI parts give shoooter's connection a try. Chuck has bout every part STI makes instock. FWIW you should have a replacement on hand of every screw, pin, and small spring for your gun. Nothing worse that to have to wait for a 50 cent pin to come UPS ground, keeping you from shooting a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted January 1, 2004 Author Share Posted January 1, 2004 I had kept a spare on hand for a while, but I used it at one point and never replaced it. Being I shoot mostly production anymore, the STIs and SV collect a lot of dust. As for bringing spare parts to a match,,, I find it easier to bring a second gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Bucky, No flame intended but you must be overtightening the 4-40 screws to strip them out so often. I have an STI and an SV gun (the STI for about 8 years) and have never stripped out one of the screws. I have almost lost them while disassembling the gun but not stripped them. Be careful with the small screws as all they have to do is keep the bushing from falling out. The only have to be tight enough so that they would fall out by themselves. I use "shoe goo" instead of loctite as it keeps them from loosening under vibration but allows you to remove them with very little torque. I do the same with the grip screws. Good luck, Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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