PerfectDouble Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I would like to use a Saiga in the Open division. I have one that is stock that I would like to have modified for competition. Who do the top 3 gunners (who use Saigas, of course) use to perform their conversions/modifications. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Jim Lambert, Firebird Precision Firearms. (not to even imply that i'm a top 3 gunner!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) I use a dremel tool, a drill, and a can of spray paint If you want something truly tricked out though, Firebird Precision is a good option Edited February 26, 2010 by SinistralRifleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35WLN Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I am not even close to a top guy but I do have a R&R open saiga, check the vendor tent. I always had concerns about reliability but I have had zero malfunctions in about 900 rounds in this gun. I like the way Robert has setup the saiga now. The AR type safety, the left side charge handle and his new magwell with release make it just like my Ar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug H. Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) Hard to say, I think most of the top 3 gunners have yet to switch to Saigas, except Butler, who finished 4th in Open at the USPSA MG Nationals with a DI gun. Saigas will be more competitive in Outlaw matches because of magazine capacity, which is limited in USPSA. I'm pretty sure this is what the top Saiga shooters were using at some big matches in 2009. Correct me if I'm wrong. DPMS Tri-gun Challenge - R&R Targets Saiga (3) Superstition Mystery Mountain - R&R Targets Saiga (2) Blue Ridge Mountain - R&R Targets Saiga (2) Johnson 3-Gun - R&R Targets Saiga (2); Firebird (2,I think but the R&Rs placed higher) JP Rocky Mountain 3-Gun - R&R Targets Saiga (3); Firebird (3, not 100% sure on # but R&Rs placed higher) MGM Ironman - R&R Targets Saiga (2); Dreadnaught (2); JT Engineering (1) finishing R&R,R&R,DI,JT,DI FN Midwest 3-Gun Championship R&R Targets Saiga (2); Dreadnaught (2) finishing R&R then DI,R&R,DI (EDIT-RW told me he thinks Butler shot a JT Engineering Saiga at this match, changes finish to JT then R&R,DI,R&R,DI) So in the end you need to find some of these guns and try them out before you spend your hard earned cash because they all are a little different. If you ever see anybody at a match with an R&R shirt on they would be glad to talk to you about Saigas and let you shoot them. R&R Saigas will be at almost every big match 3 gun match in the US and at the Pan Am shoot this year, PM me with your location and we can try to connect. Doug Edited February 27, 2010 by Doug H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectDouble Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Wow. Thanks for all the quick (and detailed) answers. R&R was on my short list. It's nice to get some confirmation for them. I like the fact that they are setup to match the operation of an AR as much as possible -- less motor skills that need to be perfected. I didn't even know that Firebird did Saiga conversions. I'm still waiting on their website to get up and running. In the meantime, could anyone point me to a link that has a description of the Firebird modifications (with pictures hopefully)? Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Ho Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Wow. Thanks for all the quick (and detailed) answers. R&R was on my short list. It's nice to get some confirmation for them. I like the fact that they are setup to match the operation of an AR as much as possible -- less motor skills that need to be perfected. I didn't even know that Firebird did Saiga conversions. I'm still waiting on their website to get up and running. In the meantime, could anyone point me to a link that has a description of the Firebird modifications (with pictures hopefully)? Thanks for your help. Call Jim 505 847-0108 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectDouble Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Jim Lambert, Firebird Precision Firearms. (not to even imply that i'm a top 3 gunner!) I just read another post on Firebird Saigas, and Jim said that you ordered one "with all the mods that exist.. and a few more". So have you gotten it yet? Can you post some pics and list the mods? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Hello: Give Jim a Call at Firebird. He can clear up all your questions. I have one of his Saiga's that he worked on for me. I told him I want to do it in stages as I can afford it and make sure I like 3-gun. There are 3 guys I would look at for Saigas, they are Alex Wakal, Jack Travers and Jim Lambert Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectDouble Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Thanks, everyone. I appreciate the help and info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Jim Lambert, Firebird Precision Firearms. (not to even imply that i'm a top 3 gunner!) I just read another post on Firebird Saigas, and Jim said that you ordered one "with all the mods that exist.. and a few more". So have you gotten it yet? Can you post some pics and list the mods? Thanks. Yeah, mines got some straight out of Star Wars upgrades on it... Its currently in Jims hands getting a final mod, but I can promise you that next time I see it I will post pics. I'm an evil SOB and I like to make y'all jealous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSteve Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Quick question about Jim, and R+R, do you buy your gun and send it out, or do they do the work on one and you buy the entire thing from them? I know you could do either, but is there a cost advantage to doing one over the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug H. Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Quick question about Jim, and R+R, do you buy your gun and send it out, or do they do the work on one and you buy the entire thing from them? I know you could do either, but is there a cost advantage to doing one over the other? You can do it either way. I don't know that you would save much money by buying the gun and shipping it buts it depends on how cheap you can get a Saiga. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug H. Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 (edited) Looks like I replied to myself, I need to learn how to use the buttons. Doug Edited February 27, 2010 by Doug H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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