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  1. Had one slip through the cracks once, despite case gauging and inspection. Titegroup and a 147 JHP in a .380 case in a Glock 34. No damage to the gun but definitely caught my attention when fired at practice...did create a new visual standard for a "guppied" case.

    Curtis

  2. It would be hard to argue that this holster allows access to the trigger. However, it's hard to tell from the photo, for Production it must also meet the requirements in Appendix D4, 20, specifically:

    •May not be manufactured or cut lower than,

    and must cover the slide up to, ½” below the

    ejection port (belt slide “Yaqui” type holster

    exempt).

    :cheers:

    Curtis

  3. I might be coming on my way back from Colorado...so I'll have my fleece with me just in case :roflol:

    Anybody know of a nice state park or RV-friendly campground within an hour of the range?

    It oughta be another great one, Ken, with you and your crew in charge.

    :cheers:

    Curtis

    I think there's one just North of the Match Hotel but I don't know the name. Googlemaps doesn't show a name.

    Thanks, I'll check that out...I'll be doing some research once I get out from under this cold/flu that's currently kicking my behind. Just wondering if anyone from the area had any recs.

    There is a municipal RV park right in the city I remember seeing, just up the road from for the 2010 Double Tap Championship match hotel, but would like to find something a little more interesting place for my wife and dog to enjoy while I'm at the range for a number of days.

    :cheers:

    Curtis

  4. I seem to vaguely recall an extended discussion on this at some point. Relying on memory here (a bad thing) and after a fresh perusal of the rules I couldn't think of a reason to prohibit it but I personally don't feel it's the greatest idea...I would always want the safety check of racking and visual confirmation to make triple sure it was unloaded.

    Curtis

  5. These multiple string standards stages are normally run with multiple shooters (two or three) on a common firing line, each shooting at their set of targets in turn, then moving as a group down range with holstered hot guns under RO supervision. I think I figured I walked 13 miles over three days scoring one such stage at Area 4 2010. If somebody demanded to go downrange after the 50 yard string and you had no recourse as an RO under the rules to forbid it, it would require all to Unload and Show Clear and create another significant delay in a stage that, if not managed well, can become a time problem for a match.

    Curtis

    Don't see how they could demand you to make 2-3 other shooters to ULSC just so they could go check targets.

    It would definitely be a problem, but I'm still a little fuzzy on how such a request could be refused, based on a specific rule in the rule book. Still looks like there is no specific rule that could be cited to prohibit it, but no specific rule a competitor could cite to show the prohibition is unjustified either, unless I've overlooked something in the discussion. I don't like grey areas, no matter how unlikely, that get brought up during a match. Now that we've let the cat out of the bag on this one, I'd be comfortable finding a more secure bag :devil:

    Curtis

  6. These multiple string standards stages are normally run with multiple shooters (two or three) on a common firing line, each shooting at their set of targets in turn, then moving as a group down range with holstered hot guns under RO supervision. I think I figured I walked 13 miles over three days scoring one such stage at Area 4 2010. If somebody demanded to go downrange after the 50 yard string and you had no recourse as an RO under the rules to forbid it, it would require all to Unload and Show Clear and create another significant delay in a stage that, if not managed well, can become a time problem for a match.

    Curtis

  7. I ended up with a similar wear spot...even if properly torqued it can move/loosen over time with recoil. I added some grip tape on the tube under the clamp and it seems to stay in place better.

    Curtis

  8. IETA: Note: the recommendations for changing recoil springs are for factory springs, not aftermarkets. I have no idea how often to change ISMI, Wolff, etc... (When they're worn out I guess, :roflol: )

    My rule of thumb is every 5K rounds...whether they needed it or not :lol:

    Curtis

  9. Yes, but once the start signal has been given, what compels the shooter to stay at the start position after shooting his first string, but before making ready for the second string?

    There is no Make Ready command for the second string. After the first string is complete the RO will require you to reholster. If the next string is from the same box, you would only hear "Are you ready....Standby....BEEP".

    Curtis

    Be careful, Curtis. There is no published standard for what is or isn't said at the end of string one (or subsequent strings) of a Standards CoF. Recommendations...yes.

    I often give a "Make Ready" at the start of subsequent strings to allow the competitor a chance to take a sight picture.

    Point taken. I will normally say "Reload as required then holster" before the "Are you ready". This is my standard approach which I believe is in keeping with the rules per 8.3.6.1. As we seen noted elsewhere in this thread, straying from established range commands can sometimes raise unanticipated problems. I personally am not comfortable with a second "Make Ready" but have had shooters ask whether they can take a sight picture, usually before I get to "Are you ready", and of course affirm that they can.

    Curtis

    Edited: 'cause I hate tipos typos! and to add a point or two

  10. Yes, but once the start signal has been given, what compels the shooter to stay at the start position after shooting his first string, but before making ready for the second string?

    There is no Make Ready command for the second string. After the first string is complete the RO will require you to reholster. If the next string is from the same box, you would only hear "Are you ready....Standby....BEEP".

    Curtis

  11. There is a rule, I can't qoute it and I hope I"m not making it up, that you can only be so far from the RO. If you start off up range with out the ROs permission that could be bad.

    Huh? If there is such a rule, then that would mean speed demons need to make sure the RO's keep up with them as they fly through a course?

    Had to go and make me look it up didn't you. Since its a standards and your shooting from a box your not going any where but that box. So....

    8.3.1.1 Once the “Make Ready” command has been given, the competitor

    must not move away from the start location prior to issuance

    of the “Start Signal” without the prior approval, and under the

    direct supervision, of the Range Officer.

    If your running a field course the RO has to keep up with because your in the shooting area shooting the course. On a 50 yards standard stage your in a box and have no need to go else where as there is no other box for that string.

    I was also thinking of the stages where the first string is from one box, then the shooter and RO move together to a box closer to the targets for the second string.

    Curtis

  12. after I posted this, I thought of a question, sorry for the hijac.

    But lets say you have 3 targets at 25 yds, and you have to shoot 2 at them(virgina count), and then move up to 15 yards and shoot them in a second string. Can you go and up to the targets and visually inspect your first set of shots before going to the 15yd line and shooting the second string? Is there anything in the rule book that says you can't?

    In regard to Sean's interesting question, at the risk of drifting the thread a little, I'd interpret the rules to imply this could be forbidden (thankfully so...imagine the delays if everyone in a match were permitted to check the targets between strings in a 50 yd standard) based on the following:

    It may be two strings but it is only one COF. The initial "Make Ready" signifies the start of the COF (8.3.1). Per 8.3.6.1, additional commands such "Reload if required and reholster" are permitted to prepare for the next string (8.3.6.1), but the COF has begun and does not end until the "Range is clear" command signifies the end of the COF (8.3.8). Per 8.3.1.1, the after the start of the COF (at "Make Ready") the competitor may not move away from the start position without the approval and supervision of the RO...after all, he has a loaded and holstered gun at this point and he is within a COF and about to commence the second string (two strings, one COF).

    But in leafing through the rule book, this is the best I can come up...that an RO could refuse to allow this, but is this sufficient or am I missing something? If Sean insisted, I refused and he took it to arbitration, what rule might he cite that would require permitting this under such circumstances

    Maybe the mods could move this to a new thread in the Rules section of the forum.

    Curtis

    Edited: 'cause I hate tipos typos!

  13. Rules are rules—they don't bend, just break. You handled it with great character.

    You have proved, probably not for the first time, that you are worthy of the respect of your fellow competitors and a proper role model for the new shooters.

    :cheers:

    Curtis

  14. +1 for Bobby Keigans at Freedom Gunworks. Unbelievable attention to detail in design/workmanship and outstanding care and concern for his customers. I always feel I get way more than my money's worth from Bobby on anything he's done for me.

    :cheers:

    Curtis

    Edited: 'cause I hate tipos typos!

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