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  1. I first tried the ESS and wasn't very happy with them. The prescription insert snaps onto the nose piece behind the frame, which puts the Rx insert too close to the face and subject to fogging and sweat.

    My Rudy Exceptions on the other hand are great. The Rx inserts attach directly into the frame and the protective lenses snap onto the front. They pivot up and can be snapped off quickly and replaced by other colors when conditions change. Worth the extra money.

    :cheers:

    Curtis

  2. Always have a chocolate chip granola bar, small pouch of dried fruit, pack or two of peanut butter crackers and a peanut butter sandwich with me on match days, in addition to two quarts of water and one (or two, depending upon the heat index) quarts of Gatorade.

    Got to give the ol' machine a steady supply of fuel.

    Edited to add: all of these foods never touch my hands, which is another benefit...hands only touch the cellophane wrapper, outside of the pouch or outside of the sandwich baggy.

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  3. Wouldn't work for me. I double plug to reduce outside stimulation (distraction) to the minimum to increase concentration for the job at hand. Something I picked up years ago when I started wearing earplugs under my helmet when roadracing motorcycles. Reducing the wind roar, sounds of bikes around me, etc., seemed to increase my ability to concentrate.

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  4. In response to the question, I like the M1 for the money. No question that the M2 absorbs recoil better but the M1 has a stronger receiver and seems to be more reliable but YMMV. I doubt you can ever wear out a Benelli and at least I can find a used M1 for %500 less than a M2. For that amount of money, you can trick out the M1 and still have funds for plenty of ammo.

    Real happy with my M1 as well. With a Limbsaver recoil pad and Cheek-Ez cheek pad, it's downright comfy. The 24 in. VR barrel with front and mid-beads is very workable for slugs out to 130 yards once you get used to 'em. A Nordic extension, barrel clamp and bolt handle, plus a Progressive Machine bolt release and it's a package that works fine for me.

    :cheers:

    Curtis

  5. (Now...if you are on board with that... I can refute that position in a way that hasn't yet been mentioned. Heck, I can probably show this to be zero procedurals. unsure.gif)

    devil.gif

    I'm B) with that...let the games begin! This is why the Rules forum is more fun than network television :lol:

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  6. George Jones recently posted the following on another thread that may be revelant...or at least interesting...to the discussion on this thread. Retained his bold for emphasis.

    "From the latest rules updates:

    10.2.2 A competitor who fails to comply with a procedure specified in the

    written stage briefing will incur one procedural penalty for each occurrence.

    However, if a competitor has gained a significant advantage during

    non-compliance, the competitor may be assessed one procedural

    penalty for each shot fired, instead of a single penalty (e.g. firing multiple

    shots contrary to the required position or stance). Do not apply

    two different penalties for the same offense, (e.g. not firing the required

    rounds in a Virginia Count stage; competitor gets a miss and no procedural)."

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    Edited: 'cause I hate tipos typos!

  7. STAGE PROCEDURE (for added clarity):

    Upon start signal, turn, then draw and from Box A

    engage T1-T6 with only one round per target, then make a

    mandatory reload and from Box A engage T1-T6 with only

    one round per target.

    Key word here is "then". The way that has always been taught, and how I have seen everybody here apply it over the years, is that the the word "then" means you have to fully meet the procedure before the "then", and also fully meet the procedure after the "then".

    Here, there are two instances of not following the stage procedure.

    - "...from Box A engage T1-T6 with only one round per target, then..." - That is one procedural, given the above mentioned scenario.

    - "...then make a mandatory reload and from Box A engage T1-T6..." - That is one more procedural, given the above mentioned scenario

    ============

    Josh, I think you are on the right line of thinking with the stacked shots, but I'd call it a bit differently (see above).

    I also considered stacked shots, but it doesn't seem to fit the criteria: the competitor ended up with the required number of shots on every target (bold added for emphasis)...no target ended up with fewer shots than specified.

    9.4.5.3 Stacked shots (i.e. obviously shooting more than the required

    rounds on a target(s) while shooting other target(s) with fewer

    shots than specified in any string), will incur one procedural

    penalty per target insufficiently engaged in any string. This

    penalty will not be applied if the written stage briefing specifically

    authorizes stacked shots.

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  8. Nik, I might be missing something, but if I understand correctly, the competitor starts off with two shots on T1. To me, 10.4.2 would more properly apply in a case where the shooter completed his one shot on T1-6 then shoots an additional shot on T1 before reloading.

    I would think 10.2.2 is the most applicable.

    Curtis

  9. Here's the stage and circumstances:

    Two strings, Virgina count. The stage briefing calls for the shooter to engage T1-6 freestyle with one round each, mandatory reload, then engage T1-6 with one round each stronghand. Second string: one round each freestyle, mandatory reload, then one round each weakhand. On the second string, a competitor stops himself with a squib load before engaging the last target (or two) weakhand. The question was whether the competitor should receive merely the miss penalties or also receive FTEs/procedurals for the final target(s). The RO running the shooter felt that FTEs do not apply, and I agreed upon reflection, as did another RO. Other ROs felt that FTEs should apply, because the competitor did not fulfill the requirements of the stage briefing, i.e. the final incompleted shot(s) weakhand.

    To me, the rule book is clear than the competitor can not be penalized for failure to make the second shots beyond the applicable miss penalties, in keeping with 9.5.1, 9.5.7 and 10.2.7.

    9.5.1 Unless otherwise specified in the written stage briefing, scoring paper

    targets must be shot with a minimum of one round each, with the best

    two hits to score. Scoring metal targets must be shot with a minimum

    of one round each and must fall to score.

    9.5.7 A competitor who fails to shoot at the face of each scoring target in a

    course of fire with at least one round will incur one procedural penalty

    per target for failure to shoot at the target, as well as appropriate penalties

    for misses (see Rule 10.2.7).

    10.2.7 A competitor who fails to shoot at any scoring target with at least one

    round will incur one procedural penalty per target, plus the applicable

    number of misses, except where the provisions of Rules 9.2.4.4 or 9.9.2

    apply.

    The ROs who took the position that additional penalities would apply based their reasoning on failing to comply with the requirements of the written stage briefing (10.1.1, 10.2.2), i.e. failure to complete the final weakhand shot(s).

    10.1.1 Procedural penalties are imposed when a competitor fails to comply

    with procedures specified in a written stage briefing. The Range

    Officer imposing the procedural penalties must clearly record the number

    of penalties, and the reason why they were imposed, on the competitor’s

    score sheet.

    10.2.2 A competitor who fails to comply with a procedure specified in the

    written stage briefing will incur one procedural penalty for each occur-

    rence. However, if a competitor has gained a significant advantage during

    non-compliance, the competitor may be assessed one procedural

    penalty for each shot fired, instead of a single penalty (e.g. firing multiple

    shots contrary to the required position or stance).

    I'm sure if I've misconstrued the circumstances or reasoning, some of the other ROs involved in the discussion will set the record straight...it was pretty hot out there today and my memory could easily have been adversely affected. :wacko:

    Let the learning experience begin.

    :cheers:

    Curtis

  10. LOL! I remember having arguments with my school teacher about clockwise vs counterclockwise rotation of the planet Earth. The so called counterclockwise rotation is only true when viewed from above the North pole. Since she never stipulated in the test question from which point of view, either answer should be correct.

    So when RO's say that they will we pasting in a clockwise direction, is there an implied point of view?

    You have... literally... made this into rocket science.

    Epic fail. roflol.gif

    I just point and say we will start on the right (or left) and work our way around—and no one touches a target until we pass. No need complicating a one horse parade.

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  11. Pushing these hypothetical situations to the extreme is extremely valuable in clarifying our thinking about the issues involved. Kudos to all involved. Much better examining such issues here, rather than when something from the twilight zone lands in our laps during a match.

    :cheers:

    Curtis

  12. More or less what time was everything wraped up last year on Sun? I am just trying to get an idea so that I can make appropriate travel arrangements.

    If you intend to stay for the prize table, you may want to plan on being at the range until 3 -3:30 p.m. just to be safe. The match itself usually wraps up around noon or so, IIRC.

    Now, if you win your division, you won't have to hang around that long. :devil:

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  13. I just use Dillon dies in conjunction with a Lee Factory Crimp Die. In loading over 4K rounds of once-fired 10mm, including some hot loads fire in my Glocks, I've had exactly one round round that failed to pass a chamber gauge due to bulge.

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  14. I thought the vanek trigger wasn't allowed in production am I misinformed?

    Yes, you are misinformed. Charlie has Production legal triggers, i.e. no external mods, in addition to ones which relocate the trigger pin, which is an illegal mod.

    Curtis

    Edited: 'cause I hate tipos typos!

  15. Curtis, will with the gauge handle a magazine whose angle from feed lips to magazine back measures more than 165 degrees? (Not that there's a magazine that is designed like that, yet.) Based on the pictures, I don't think it can.

    Perhaps not, but then we'd inevitably need a new gauge that would account for such an extreme if and when a mag with such an extreme angle is developed. All I can vouch for is that it works like a champ for all the mags I have on hand, i.e. STI, SVI and Glock, and looks more than capable of handling any other that I've seen.

    :cheers:

    Curtis

  16. I bought the EGW gauge once I decided to go to Limited. If you have one, and work with it a little, it's actually very well designed IMO to measure mag length...the angle mentioned, in particular, allows accurately measuring the length to the back of the feed lips, no what what the angle of the feedlips. The two small ledges where the back of the magazine touches accounts for magazine tubes that may not be completely flat. A deeper cut out allows for basepad overhang. If you gently press down on the mag in the gauge, the spring will compress a little and then it's easy to hold it up to the light to make sure it is touching at all the appropriate points, and hence legal. Ingenious, actually.

    A buddy and I went in together on one after I saw how futile it would be to try to get accurate measurements with a caliper.

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    Are you allowed to apply "gentle" pressure ??? Is your "gentle" pressure the same as the RO running the chrono stage at the next major match ??

    When I say gentle pressure I mean "gentle"...one finger's worth of pressure just to make sure it's in place and all obvious play is taken up...if it's at all marginal or iffy to even a small extent, then I change basepads or break out the file. I don't believe in tempting fate and plan for the worst case scenario. For example, when weighing my production gun at home I don't want it to make weight on my scale...I want it .1 oz. below weight just in case the match scale doesn't agree.

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