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I was having issues with high primers on my 650 but I figured out a way to fix that problem. I took the plunger assembly apart and found there is a shoulder on the plunger that limits how high it can go, shimming the base plate does not allow it to seat any deeper as it can not go any further due to the shoulder on the plunger. I put the plunger in one of my lathes and cut the shoulder back to allow it to seat the primers deeper, I've not had any high primer issues since......

I'm really loving this gun now after doing this mod and the polishing of the trigger bar etc.... I'm not a very good pistol shooter as I've always been a shotgun shooter, I shot competitive skeet for about 25 years...then I got into rimfire benchrest rifles for a few years. After quitting skeet shooting and benchrest, I decided that I want to try pistol shooting just for fun as I've always liked pistols but was never worth a crap shooting one. I got a Dillon 650 loader and started loading 9mm, I got a nice load worked up and I shoot on my backyard range as I live in a rural area with no restrictions on shooting. I've got three 9mm pistols , a M&P 2.0, a Sig P210A Target and this Wather Q5 SF...... the Walther is my favorite one to shoot....:) I shot my best target at 20 yards today...this is the target, three 17 rounds clips at 20 yards....

bb4gun....Thanks for the tip.....I chucked up the powder funnel from my 650 in one of my lathes and took off a couple thousands so the re-sized case would slide up to the flare and then re-polished it. I loaded a thousand rounds this morning without a single case sticking...it works Awesome now....I had eliminated most of the powder getting all over the shell plate when loading except for when the case would stick...after a thousand rounds this morning, not a speck of powder anywhere....Thanks again...:)

That's a really good idea with the black tape...I'll give that a try......Thanks

Since posting this thread asking about the Overwatch trigger, I have installed a set of Loc thin grips.....I've done the set screw mod to remove the creep from the trigger. I've polished the trigger bar on the high spots and the area where the tension arm on the side of the trigger housing rides on the top of the trigger bar. I installed the Sprinco spring kit and polished the striker safety plunger. I came across a really good deal on a Vortex Venom red dot and installed it. I have probably put about a thousand rounds through my Q5 since posting here and with all the small mods it is Awesome now....I was going to install a set screw in the trigger shoe to remove the travel but to do that it would disable the trigger safety so I opted not to do it, the small amount of travel doesn't really bother as it's so smooth before hitting the wall, I'm used to it now. I did each small mod to it one at a time and I found that just doing one alone doesn;t really make much of a difference but after doing all of what I've done has made a huge difference for me. This Q5 SF is now my most accurate pistol and I enjoy shooting it more than my other ones. I'am still curious if the Overwatch trigger removes most of the travel, if it does then it would be perfect for me. If anyone is thinking about doing the set screw mod to remove the creep, I would strongly recommend doing it...like Memphis Mechanic said it is easy to do and only takes about ten mins. to do it. I have been building benchrest rimfire rifles for a few years now and I have a couple lathes and a milling machine, I did mine in the milling machine but it can easily be done with a hand drill also. I used the same size 6/32 set screw as MM did....I would suggest using a center drill bit to mark and start the hole, just go deep enough with just the tip of it to mark the hole and then use the proper size drill bit for 6/32 threads. Here's the bit I'm talking about .....

I did get a chance to test it out and the grips and the Sprinco kit made a big difference. I really prefer the Loc grips over the stock ones, I feel that I can control the gun a lot better with these grips. The Sprinco springs made a big difference in the pull weight of the trigger....I polished the contact points of the trigger bar and polished the striker safety plunger and installed the springs...the trigger is about 3 1/2 lbs now. I then took the trigger block out and drilled and tapped the block and installed a set screw to adjust the creep out...after adjusting the creep out of the trigger it's now a nice light clean break with no creep.... it's absolutely awesome now....I've got a Sig P210A Target that is very accurate, but now it doesn't have anything over on this Q5....I actually like shooting this Q5 better now....:)

I just bought a new Q5 SF last week...I love the gun but was not thrilled with the trigger. I polished the trigger bar and the striker plunger and installed the Sprinco spring kit and it lowered the pull weight but I could not stand the amount of creep in it. Today I was searching the web and found this link to a mod to adjust the amount of creep in the trigger...I did this mod to mine today and it works awesome....I've got the trigger adjusted with no creep, just a clean light break....I absolutely love this gun now.....:) Maybe some people already know about this mod but here's the link to it : https://lanzerbot.wordpress.com/2016/06/20/ppq-adjustable-creep-conversion-guide/

I just installed the new Lok grips and the Sprinco kit in mine this evening, going to test it out on my backyard range tomorrow....

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I just bought a new Q5 SF and was wondering if anyone has tried the TAC trigger made by Overwatch Precision....???

Thanks very much for the reply......I'm looking forward to using the bullet feeder.....:)

I'm loading 9mm on a Dillon 650, the bullets I'm using are the RMR 124gr. flat point Matchwinners....would these bullets be a problem using a Mr. Bullet feeder ? Thanks, Don

I bought a new 650 a few months ago and have been having a problem with high primers. I had found that the primer plunger was not really tight and tightened that up and thought that was the problem, but I was still having the high primer issue....it did not matter what brand of primer I used it was still happening. I don't know if this was just a issue with my loader or if they are all like this...but, last week I took the primer plunger apart and chucked the plunger in one of my lathes and cut the shoulder stop back about 10 thousands and re-cut a 60 deg. bevel...... doing this gave the plunger more protrusion and I have loaded a couple thousand rounds since doing it with not the first high primer. Just thought I would share what I found and hopefully it will help someone else if they are having the same problem. Here's a pic of what I did......

Im using the RMR 124 Matchwinners and they are the most accurate 9mm bullets I have tried so far and I've tried just about all the most popular ones out there. The jackets are definitely not soft....I've had absolutely no problems loading them on a Dillion 650. I'm getting ready to order another couple thousand very soon...:)

I got home from work a little early today and I re-adjusted my xl650 for 1.090 OAL, I'm using 4.9 of CFE Pistol, Fed. primer, WIN case. I loaded a box of them and shot them on my backyard range....WOW...you were exactly right...they came to life at that OAL.....I agree that RMR is outstanding.....I will be ordering a few more thousand of these very soon. You definitely saved me some time and money with your advice...Thanks Very Much

Thanks very much for the reply.....I just got a thousand of them to try and that's where I will start ...Thanks

Anybody here using the RMR 124 flat points...? I was just wondering what OAL with these were the most accurate for you ? Thanks in advance.... Don

Yes, they were the flat nose profile with the dished base....The Apex barrel on my M&P had a really short throat in it, I was having to load really short for it. I got tired of that and bought a throating reamer and took care of that problem, it actually shoots better after lengthening the throat in it. I've had no problems with loading long with the P210. I'm sure the Precision bullets are accurate bullets also, I just need to work with them some.

Yes, I loaded the Precision's at 1.150 also....

Yeah, I'm going to shoot them further than 10-15 yards...didn't have much time this evening. Just wanted to see how they did at close range. I don't shoot competitions, I'm just a backyard plinker...:)

I've been trying different 9mm bullets and wanted to try some of the coated bullets...I got some Precision 125's TC and they shot ok , was not impressed with the accuracy. Today I got some of the Blue bullets 125 (356) TC.....I loaded a 100 of them and tested them out on my backyard range.... I was shooting them in my M&P 4.25 with Apex barrel and trigger and my Sig P210 Target.....at 10 and 15 yards they will make one bug hole in the center of target with either gun. I will definitely be ordering some more of these. I loaded these on a Dillon 650...5.0 gr /CFE Pistol/ OAL 1.150 Win. primers

Sounds like you need to shim it. You can make a shim from a feeler gauge, cut it to size with a pair tin snips. I put a Vortex Venom on my Sig P210 with a mounting plate I bought from Armory Craft...I had to shim it for the vertical adjustment.

Apex is definitely the way to go. I installed one on my 9mm. and also the trigger kit, a set of LPA sights it is a different gun now. The only drawback I found is the short throat, I load my own bullets and wanted to try some flat point bullets and found that I had to load them way shorter than I wanted. I ordered a throating reamer and reamed the throat...I can load any length bullet up to the limits of 1.169 with no issues. I used a Manson throating reamer and it cut the Apex barrel like butter...