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The most popular and most affordable bulk 55gr bullets are the Hornady FMJBT. You can buy them in a 6k round case for about $0.06/piece when brownells and midway offer their free shipping codes. They might offer the Vmax by the case well, but I haven’t looked into it since they’re more expensive and I use it burley for plinking. I think most people get good groups with the bullets after a little load development. Hope that helps Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don’t mind it fit the rifle stuff because I just resize and trim, then toss them in the tumbler, then chamfer and debur after tumbling. I didn’t debur any pistol brass until I realized I was having a problem with it and like to go back to not deburing it. Doing that to pistol brass is a pia cause there isn’t much case to hold onto Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks Mikey, I also like my brass shiny. While it may not help, it certainly doesn’t hurt lol. Not sure why I’m having problems either. I was getting it on my 223 as well. I just seem to be really good at struggling through crap like this all the time Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Cool thanks, I’ll try less brass and a shorter time and see if that helps. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No I haven’t, I honestly didn’t realize I was having this problem until a night or two ago. I will try that next time if you think that would help. So you don’t just fill the tumbler all the way up? You have a gallon jug you use to fill it up? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I fill brass 2/3 way, then water goes all the way to the bottom edge of the top of the tumbler, shown below. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sizing is done before to remove the primers, then belling is done on the 650 while loading. I know it’s not the belling process that’s causing it, when I take cases that haven’t been belled there is a burr on the outside of the case Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

thisnis from their Facebook page, I guess the capital “B” may be important? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Check powder valley, they had $20 per 1k Remington small pistol primers. They keep alluding to more deals similar to that tomorrow until cyber Monday, but we’ll see what happens I guess. Blue bullets has 15% off with code bluesarethebest Haven’t seen much else yet Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes, it is a Frankfort Arsenal rotary tumbler. Maybe I’ll try filling it up further and seeing if that helps. I just don’t don’t want to overfill it. It says it can handle up to 30 lbs between cases, media (which I’m not currently using), and water. No idea where I’m at, but maybe I should try a little more cases and see what happens. The only problem would be what I’m doing now fills up my food dehydrator 100% which is what I use to dry my cases so that would be the only problem really. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I started doing just the cases because I hate separating the pins out. And I know super shiny cases don’t make any difference in reloading, I just like that they don’t have walnut media residue on the cases and I know they’re totally clean. Also helps with the primer pockets, which I know also isn’t a big deal for pistol brass as I only dry tumbled for the first couple of years. I just prefer to wet tumble now that I have the ability. Is wet tumbling the issue? I started loading coated bets around the same time I started tumbling. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So I’ve posted a couple of times about having problems with my coated 9mm rounds. I’m using .357” Brazos 147gr RN bullets. I recently discovered my problems were from case peening from wet tumbling. So, I’m currently debuting the cases I have already wet tumbled, but this is a complete and utter PIA. So now I’m looking for a solution to not have this problem in the future and figure out how to avoid this in the future. I also have a dry tumbler, but prefer wet tumbling because the cases come out cleaner. I usually wet tumbled for about 2-3 hours. Would less time make a difference? Less cases per batch, or more so they don’t have as much room to collide? I usually load my Frankfort tumbler 2/3 of the way full of cases. Any help is appreciated Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I could see that being both a good thing and a bad thing Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

While hiccups in reloading can be a pia, fusing the cause is part of the fun imo. Gives you a chance to do something most people never will, and you almost always come out learning something new. If everything always go perfectly you stop learning. And there is so much to learn about reloading you’ll always be learning. Iv been loading for 5ish years and am still learning new things. Try to stick with the hobby, it can be very rewarding, and this community is always here to help when you run into something you’re not sure about Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks Furrly, where do you get yours? I found some at grafs when I was looking yesterday but I feel like I don’t see as many deals from grafs as I do for other places. If I’m buying primers I might as well buy some powder lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Good to know. Why is that? Not as much power or something? Slower to ignite? Also, I’m using cci not Winchester, not sure if that makes a difference or not Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Or a food dehydrator works well too. I put them in the dehydrator after wet tumbling in the Frankfort arsenal tumbler for about an hour, then they go into a 40mm ammo can with a reusable silica pack to be sure they’re dry cause I’m paranoid and also super ocd when it comes to reloading lol. Never had any problems though so I’ll keep doing it that way. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Iv heard people say they’re more sensitive than cci? I run lighter firing pin springs in a couple guns, that’s why I ask. I haven’t had any problems using cci like many have said they do, but if the fiocchi are as soft or softer then I shouldn’t have a problem with them and might try a case of them if anyone has a good deal on them this Black Friday Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I was wet tumbling, but without media. I noticed the peening with the media and didn’t feel like chamfering and debuting the pistol stuff so I ditched it. There could still be a small amount of deformation from wet tumbling though. I’ll try debuting a couple and see if that helps at all. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’ll take a look, thanks. I think it’s a little bit of both. There were some shavings inside, but mostly on the outside Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Oh ok. I’m actually doing that with my crimp die right now, makes it just that much harder to adjust the die haha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What would moving the lock ring below the toolhead do for me? The die already set and gives me the correct amount of flare on the Hornady, it was just the 650 I ran out of adjustment on. Also there was still about 1/2” of threads above the tool head after the die hit the shell plate, plenty of room to snug the lock ring on there Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It’s not that the die won’t go down far enough, I can get it to go in, and touch the shell plate with no problem. The problem is that when I start to twist the plug down to adjust the flare (once the die is locked in place in the tool head), the plug doesn’t travel far enough down to flare the case. But again, that’s a not big deal for me right now as I’m already processing brass on the Hornady anyways. I will try the process with lube next week when I get some time, and I will also try to polish the plug. Thanks for the help guys Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The die hit the shell plate early, and the stem wouldn’t go down far enough to bell the case, it was just barely touching the case. Here is a picture of the belled cases. The two in the middle are belled and the two on the outside are not. If you zoom in you can barely tell which are and which are not belled. So if anything it seems like the cases could be belled more. Like I said, I did the bare minimum as to not overwork the brass unnecessarily. Here is the 650, I had the expander in station 1 but removed it when I couldn’t get it to adjust far enough down and moved it Into the LNL, also shown here No I have not called Dillon, I think the older rcbs die just may not be designed to have that much travel in it. I just started experimenting tonight, so at this point I’m not so much worried about it not fitting in the 650, just trying to figure why there are brass shavings everywhere. I do all my brass prep on the LNL in order to keep the majority of the walnut media out of the 650, so it would be easy for me to leave the expander in the LNL with my decapping/resizing die to have fully prepped, ready to load brass, and it will be lubed since I lube before I resize. Let me know what you think. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m only expanding. I couldn’t get the die to fit properly in my 650 so I was running some cases through with only the expander in the press. I am not lining the cases, I will try that now though. No I’m not over belling, only just enough for the bullet to go into the case. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk