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2 minutes ago, pskys2 said:
With your schedule i can understand, the goal is to have fun.
yeh with the 627 If I dont have reloads, like you said I can pick up a couple boxes of wally world 38's on way to match. Plus I had fun they other day shooting some drills with my full power magnum loads over 2400.
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1 minute ago, Hoops said:
It should be simple:
1. Keep long guns flagged and cased.
2. or take case to safe table and transfer to cart.
3. don’t touch the gun until called to the line to shoot or at safe table.
4. end of match, re-case from carts at safe table.
5. go home.
really dont even need that much...
1. For carbines, flagged and vertical equals holstered hand gun... all rules are the same.. Dune...
I mean the results would be just like you said.. If gun is bagged in car you walk over to safe area, and flag it.. Keep it verticle at that point OR put it in a bag.. Exactly the same thing you would do with a handgun... Called to line ? you gun is either still bagged, or vertical and flagged,, Same thing a handgun is..
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15 minutes ago, pskys2 said:
With good moons 38 specials don't give up anything and you don't have to reload.
Jess christensen won the 2022 free state with that combo. He is making a return for the a3 sc championship in april. I should be practicing rather than posting!
I dont mind reloading 38 short... Just cant bring myself to waste components on 9mm.. I had several cases on hand,, but as mentioned only the Rems worked...
Was gonna try the USPSA match in Hutch on Sunday, but rain and 30-40 mph wind... although had planned on using my old Limited gun. -
I dunno, I think it would be much more simple to just say flagged and vertical equals a holstered hand gun.. nothing else needs to be said or range lawyered... Exact same rules and procedures used for handguns apply.. Sounds like these rule writers go out of the way to make things grossly over complicated
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On 7/17/2023 at 9:09 AM, Cuz said:
What exactly are you testing?
trying to find factory loads I could count on in a 929 revolver.. and wanted to see velocity difference.. I ended up selling the 929 and getting a 627... I dont have much use for a gun I have to dick around that much with ammo. With short colt and moons readily available,, 9mm 929 wasnt worth the hassle for me
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follow up,.. I installed the LPA rear sight that has a built in rail cut on the 617... and sure as snot with the bigger ears of the rear it has a list.. Guess it is mainly the gun frame isnt quite rear... Its like once I have seen it I cant unsee.
On the 4" 617 I had to go with a .215 Dawson front to zero, with about 2 clicks up.. Dont have an optic on it at the moment.
My Viper died and I took the venom off the 617 while I was messing with irons and put on my 22/45 as I thought I was gonna shoot a steel match this weekend.. Then decided on USPSA an hour closer,, but then its gonna be rainy and 45 mph winds,,, so no thanks.. Oh well maybe next time -
doesnt take alot of effort to mix it up,,, even on the same stage. Give people options . Do I run and take the easy shot ? or stand and take the harder shot.
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2 hours ago, shred said:
Production-15 has been a thing for what, a month and a half now? In winter. Seems a little premature to claim the sky is or isn't falling.
yeh.. wish there were more matches near me.. I am gonna try the USPSA an hour away. but decided to shoot Limited with the STI,, was on fence about production 15, with the XDM osp,, dont have an optic on it . will see how this club goes, Havent shot the game in a long long time,,, was unpacking ammo, and I got match ammo loaded with Hornady Haps,, dated in 2008
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54 minutes ago, 392heminut said:
Or maybe because they actually do have a lifetime warranty? Optics are optics and that is selective reasoning. Who decides what brand is competition grade, and by what criteria?
You've been touting your sights here for some time and now try to justify a lesser warranty by excluding another sight in you discussion because you deem it non-competitive?
yeh I found that surprising...I just put the Burris 4 on my 617.. Hopefully it works ok. I had to return the Burris 3 for a refund, as I couldnt get the battery installed.. was just an odd bad design.. I fought with it for 30 minutes at my desk and figured If I couldnt do it there, no way I would be able to do it at the range. The 4 uses a 16XX battery and a deeper screw top with more threads, so it starts easily without having to compress the battery.. I imagine mine wasnt the only 3 returned and they fixed on the 4.
I do like that FTP though I have on my 627, I might put the burris on my wifes 22 carbine. and get the short FTP for the 617. -
Just now, Makicjf said:
IIRC correctly, the foundation for major and minor scoring was a 230 45 ACP @ 850 fps ( I think the original major was 190 PF) was believed to do more damage to the target. Conceptually , peripheral hits were rewarded more not for recoil control, but effect on target.
That mindset ( factual or not) is no longer adhered to by not only competitive shooters, but many ballisticians and agencies who could be required to poke holes in people to make them stop doing very bad things.
The belief of the day is 9, 40, and 45 are essentially the same. This mindset, imo, is why major scoring is questioned.
It's viewed by may the same as revolvers, 1911's and iron sights as irrelevant and a throwback to less enlightened times.
Just my thoughts,
Jason
didnt they have a pendulum or something to measure it ?
I think the scoring was also a way to balance the 1911's Americans had with the Brownings everyone else had.. Which kinda got thrown out the window when the double stack major guns came out.
Shooting major in a doublestack isnt enough of a handicap to make up for the extra scoring points once you get up around -
I have watched alot of these people shoot. What was cool about the show is seeing people I knew or knew of.. It got carnival later, but the earlier challenges were pretty basic with a 1911 and a revolver they were shooting single action/. Even the other competitors were not impressed. I mean I was surprised they didnt do better. These were no time limit fairly open stationary shots at less than 30 feet...
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Just now, motosapiens said:
iirc, you don’t even shoot uspsa matches, which might explain your silly claim.
my experience shooting 20-30 yard targets at nationals (mixed partials and open) is that the gms are also better at that skill than everyone else. no matter how difficult i make the shooting at a local match, the same 5 or so guys are battling for the overall.
yeh i was waiting for your butt hurt..... was thinking of you recently... Started watching Topshot... Never watched it before... didnt have good internet.. so watching season 2, filmed 2011. please no spoilers... But the USPSA GM's SUCK ! Id put $1000 against any of them on an accuracy challenge...
Athena Lee Went 4 challenges and never hit a target... she cant shoot a 1911 with good sights
USPSA has notthing to do with shooting skill... run fast spray pray you win
Hell my wife watching show with me.. She has never shot a match...
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5 minutes ago, motosapiens said:
7-10 yds really? i am seeing (and hearing about) significantly more difficult targets now that everyone is shooting dots.
much crying will be had... USPSA GMs have issues hitting a barn wall from inside barn..
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Any Icore in your area ? Usually less movement and accuracy is much more important.. Steel is ok, and I would shoot it if it was closer, but it can get old fast
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Go to hodgdon for #2, Its jiving pretty well.
If you look that Lovex data is well into plus p/ plus p plus territory..
Hodgdon lists 16k psi for 38 special and 19k for 38+p that lovex is 21k .
If I wanted that velocity id go with a slower powder -
Maybe the humidity ? Its alot drier in Kansas than VA
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On 3/15/2024 at 1:58 PM, RJH said:
This is too much running!
This is too much stand and shoot!
This is too much hose fest!
This is too much tight shots!
its only too much if its all of one..
A hose fest stage,, a tight shot stage, a stand and deliver stage, maybe with some week hand, or holding an object stage, makes for a good over all match...
A great match is when the individual stages offer choices,, and makes stage planning fun when folks all do it different...
IE the slow runner but accurate shooter has a spot to take 25 yard shots,, the fast runner, may run up and take the close shot. -
was digging in boxes, looking for a optic mount for a fellow shooter and my old limited rig... Guess the heat and cold of the garage somehow shrunk my belt a good 4 inches.
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8 hours ago, Haywizzle said:
This goes against what is expected in rule 8.3.3: "Stand by”
This command should be followed by the start signal within 1 to 4 seconds.It is recommended that the start signal be consistent for each string started for a given competitor—a cadence is desirable in Steel Challenge. The interval may change between competitors, however.
In my humble opinion, it's almost like they want shooter push it and possibly false start.
my old timer actually worked by the button being released,,, then it counted down a 1-3 second variable time before beeping,,, worked good for training by your self... made it really bad when I RO'd with the club timer and would freak a competitor out by beeping at standby
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3 hours ago, Racinready300ex said:
The only real major division left is Open, and I think we can leave that one alone.
USPSA match an hour away from me, havent shot it in about 10 years,,, Steel is 2 hours away and Icore doesnt start for anothe rmonth but I will be working... On fence about Pro 15/ or putting an optic on my XDM, but eh decided to dust off my old 6" STI... might be only one there, but at least 1 Limited major shooter,,, going with my typical goal, of dont be last.
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yeh,, why the whole creeping thing is nonsense. Its a false start or it isnt.. I mean in Swimming if there was a false start, and even if the start pistol was fired, the official would rappidly fire a couple extra shots, to get every one to stop.
Would be so simple if steel and USPSA to just do the exact same thing... Move before the beep,, false start,, do it again, zero the stage. If RO notices movement, but his brain cant stop his finger,,, and the beep goes off, same same,, he just yells stop,, and restarts shooter...
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Winchester sucks,, they used to be the best,,, then about 2020 started having QC issues.. had a batch and had same issues, getting stuck in the tubes,, missing primer compound, a large primer in a small primer box... Was like 1 out of 100 was bad. finally got through them I think and any WIN I have left are older..
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3 hours ago, RJH said:
I have been wondering about the fastfire 4s. There doesn't seem to be a tremendous amount of information out there about them. I know you said that you wish the window was taller, but I would love to see a side by side picture with that and your vortex venom if you still have it. Since I have a venom I would be able to get a really good idea about the window size. All the Burris optics I've had in the past have worked well whether they were red dots or scopes. So I'm pretty interested in that fastfire four for the future.
no go on the pics couldnt figure out how to hold / prop the guns,, all 3 are different, and work a touchscreen, to get anything usefull.. The online specs of the burris , pretty much jive with what I measured,,, the lens is actually taller,, but slanted back,, so I called it about .7 X 1.10.. Didnt what to scratch up glass with mikes.
Looks like the venom is a hair shorter,,
Venom,, is about the same useable size.. Burris is bigger but the shape of it probably doesnt offer more useable glass.
The FTP is noticably taller like .820 high about same width on all three.
Personally ? its a toss up between the Venom and Burris,, Burris has different reticles, but not a good 6 MOA, I played with the 11 with brightness down a bit. the circle ones are an eyesore and I dont see the point.. At this point kinda thinking of switching. Putting the Burris on my 22/45 steel challenge gun where the 11 MOA may be good.. and the 6 moa on my 617 which I shoot Icore with and the X ring accuracy is more criticle.
For games of the 3 I like the FTP the best though. not sure where its made though. -
the ones with the front area,,, usually that area has a split or cut in it, so you can spread them out like wings towards the front,, this adjusts the triggers take up,, IE how far the slop is in the trigger before it makes contact... The set screw adjusts rear ward travel. If the trigger came from someone like Atlas specifically for their frames they probably have it dialed in to the amount of take up they want..
Generic after market ones like Wilson combat,, I am guess still have the cut
The Future of Major Scoring
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Humm so its looking like I wont be able to fund my retirement from the 3, 22 round 40 cal 140mm mags I have