Chills1994

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

That’s very clever!

Yep! Agreed! Which is why I have been saving my metallic primer stash, and shooting shotguns way more often now. I can get Cheddite 209 shotgun primers locally. Wish I could say the same about small pistol and small rifle primers.

Yeah….as a revenue stream for USPSA HQ. For those that interested, USPSA is a non-profit. So the IRS Form 990’s are published at Guidestar.

Back when Single Stack became a legit division the HHF’s were the exact same as L-10. Also at the time, let’s say the HHF for whatever classifier was set at say 10.0 in Open. Then in Limited, the HHF was set at 9.0 for that same classifier. And say for Production the HHF was 8.0. Lastly for the revolver guys, the HHF was set at 7.0 . So there were clearly these 10% step downs in all the HHF’s as you went from the gamey-est division to the least gamey division. This would have been around say the 2010 timeframe. so it makes me curious where the HHF and graph came from posted on the first page???

where did that high hit factor information or data come from? can it actually be tracked back to an actual real live person shooting it at some local match?

I had a local guy plasmaCAM the half doughnuts for me.

I know it’s been a few weeks, but I finally remembered to take a pic(s). My idea about 10 years ago was to make my own stakes…maybe out of rebar???. Then a square hollow tube would get welded onto the back with a threaded nut and bolt with a T handled welded on it. The square tube would be oriented on the vertical axis. It would slip over the (rebar???) stake. Then a few twists of the T handled bolt locked it in place height wise on the stake.

yep! Olin is Olin…errr….Winchester ammunition (which is probably some sort of licensing thing in order to use the “Winchester” name). And yep again! CCI is owned by Vista Outdoors. so it is basically a duopoly between Vista and Olin. Now, this next part is going to sound like so much of “Ferris Bueller passed out at 31 flavors last night….” But when the ATA Grand was going on a month ago, I made it a point to stop by the Winchester ammo vendor showroom. I asked one of the regional sales reps there about primer availability. His response was, “In 2023, you will start seeing primers becoming more available. Currently, all of our primers are going towards making completely loaded factory ammo.”

Hey, thank you so much for replying back. Among the shotgun reloading people, about the only 12 gauge hulls worth reloading are: 1. Remington STS’s (deep or dark green color) 2. Remington Nitro’s (gold color) 3. Remington Gun Clubs (regular green color) 4. Winchester AA’s (red color) 5. Winchester AA’s (super handicaps are gray) So, yes, by color. What I was envisioning was a conveyor belt running horizontally. There are electric “eyes” out there that can be like “programmed” for a specific color, but what I have seen so far cost about $300 each. Then I was picturing that “eye” connected to a (magnetic) solenoid “plunger” that would kick out the dark green hulls, which would fall down a chute and into a box. And then there would be another “eye” further down the conveyor that would be programmed to pick out the gold hulls. And again a solenoid would kick it down a chute and into a box. So on and so on. EDIT: unfortunately there are Estate hulls and the el cheapo Winchester Super Targets that are red in color, so I don’t know how good those “eyes” are at differentiating between shades of red.

I think that was roll off dumpster #2 or #3: I went back another time, so this one here would make roll off #3 or #4:

Yeah, yeah, I know 12 gauge hulls aren’t really worth much…. If anything, but I figure it is better than most of them ending up in a landfill:

Major thread drift ahead… An automated way to separate out different 12 gauge hulls would be nice:

Yep, I just looked. Maybe at some point my old, old “local club” did become a Steel Challenge “franchisee” . However, between the SCSA find a club function and the Practiscore results, it looks like they are no longer affiliated with the SCSA. According to Practiscore, they call it a “steel plate” match. Ohhhh….wellll….

Maybe Gary Anderson???? called the father of the Single Stack Division??? I think he drove a 4th Gen or 5th Gen Mustang to matches. I also think he had the Borg cube as his avatar.

Ahhhh….jeesh…. I can’t remember his name now, but I took a USPSA RO class from ….Gary Stevens ??? in the fall of 2007 in Indianapolis, so I could RO the 2008 Single Stack Nat’s (in the spring of 2008). He let it slip then in November 2007 that some “umbrella organization” had just bought another shooting organization. But he would not elaborate on which one. I figured it out a month or two later. The first thing that popped into my head was “USPSA is gonna screw this up with a classification system!" In 2007, NOPE! SC did not have a classification system. At that time, my local club shot two steel plate…errr….steel challenge matches a month. First and third Saturday. The fee was only a dollar. Supposedly some time in 2008 or 2009, then USPSA Prez Michael Voigt called our “steel challenge” match director to ask if our club would join the for real Steel Challenge Shooting Association. Our match director told Voigt to basically piss up a rope….”We have had all the steel targets for years now. What do we need you for?”

Thank you sir!

Nope. Just using Clays right now for the 12.

Yeah, TightGroup is my usual go to powder for 9mm. I actually bought the Red Dot for shotgun reloading. I was wondering if I didn’t like it for a shotgun powder, then I could try it for 9mm.

Got a link? I googled “9mm reloads + Red Dot”, and surprise, surprise! Even here on BE people were having issues in 2014 looking for Red Dot 9mm data.

I guess it used to be in the Alliant manuals up til 2014. Then they took it out, and it has been out ever since. Here is a link to the old Alliant manuals: https://www.castpics.net/LoadData/Freebies/RM/Alliant.html Sooo…I am just wondering if anybody here ever tried Red Dot to reload plain ol’ 9mm (minor)???

I had gone through junior high and high school shooting 3 position small bore rifle every Wednesday night. Fast forward to 1994, I was a brand new 2Lt. In the Air Force. So, I thought the next logical evolution would be to get an M1A and start shooting Camp Perry type stuff. one night while flipping through the channels, I stopped at the one and only ESPN channel they had, and watched this: i was hooked. Yes, that actually aired on ESPN in the mid 1990’s. There were several pawn shops/gun shops outside of Ft. Bragg. I stopped by one of them and they had the Jerry Barnhart video series playing in the background. They told me about “ip-sick matches” . This was before google maps, before GPS, before mapquest, and before the internet basically. So they had hand drawn maps they had Xerox’ed off. They gave me a map for a match that weekend. I think I saw a very clean cut looking PatMac there. My memory is a little fuzzy from that time, but I was just a spectator, and there were competitors there who were trying go goad me into shooting this thing called the El Prez . I am pretty sure I declined out of fear of embarrassing myself. I gave up on the M1A and Camp Perry. When I moved back to Illinois, sometime in the 2000’s I found a club that shot both IPSC and IDPA matches.

On Lake City brass which has been twice fired… Or civilian brass with no primer crimps…. And I am fairly certain that all the case lengths are going to be under 1.760” long, I can get by with S.Pa.R.R. Single Pass Rifle Reloading On a 650: station #1: universal decapping die station #2: Redding S style sizing die with a neck bushing (I’ll be back later with the size. I am using a neck bushing die instead of a conventional re-sizing die with an expander ball so that the neck or mouth doesn’t get stretched out, and it increases the COAL). Station #3: Dillon Powder Measure , retrograded with the springs station #4: redding microsdjustable bullet seating die station #5: empty (when I get back to my reloading shop later on today, I will take a closer look at my SPaRR toolhead, just to make sure that is how I have it set up. Do NOT be surprised if I edit this post again. The Dillon Powder Measure might be in station #4 and bullet seating might be in station #5 .) I tumble the lube off the cases. Or I will dump the cases in a rubbing alcohol soaked terry cloth towel. Then give them bowling ball polishing treatment Then I weigh each round on a digital scale since I wasn’t able to visually confirm powder in the case. I will also case gauge every single round. If your cases start out shorter than 1.760”, then you do NOT need to trim. Let me say that one more time…. If your cases start out shorter than 1.760", then you do NOT need to trim. Let that sink in.