SinistralRifleman
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This match just gets better and better every year!
The stages this year were set up in such a way that they ran more efficiently, and were easier for shooters to understand without as much RO direction on the stage. Though the round count was slightly lower, the match was no less challenging. As usual, the ROs and staff did a great job of keeping the match running and helping shooters through the stages.
Stage 7, the totally blind Pirate-Hostage escape stage is quite possibly the best stage I have seen at a 3 gun match ever. Very creative and challenging. Thanks to Sam and the guys for making that happen.
Thanks again to the Gibson family for putting on the most technically challenging and physically demanding match in the country!
Congratulations to all the other competitors who completed the match in Trooper class. Simply finishing the match in Trooper is no easy accomplishment.
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One year there were two of these that required buck shot be used... one round on each from my gun started the plate spinning so hard they uprooted from the ground and the legs fell off. The RO yelled "NEUTRALIZED!" and I kept going.
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13 registered, 47 slots left.
Spec Ops Brand
Shooter's World
Coyote Tactical
are all in as sponsors...
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Wolff makes generic 12 gauge mag tube springs that are way long. The general rule I was told is the spring should be 1.5 times as long as the tube it is going in. Cut the spring to the length you need.
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I like the 9-13" swivel Harris
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Trooper: Any system above, but carry all your gear all day including all ammo and lunch. Water will be re-supplied. In the event of a reshoot, you may restock only the rounds required to shoot the stage you have to reshoot.
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If there is enough interest there can be multiple trooper divisions or an entire match can be trooper (NCRecon) and still have Limited, open, tactical and HM.
It's time for Starship Troopers:
I so want to get one of these, register it as an AOW and mount guns to it.
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my new trooper class sidearm ready to rock!
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2009 Independence Day Rifle Match
On July 4th, 2009, the fourth annual AzCDL Independence Day Action Rifle Match will be hosted by the Phoenix Rod and Gun Club Practical Division.
As a benefit match, all proceeds (minus range and target expenses) are donated to AzCDL. The match is capped at 60 shooters, so get your applications in early!
Slots are reserved in the order that registrations are received. http://www.azcdl.org/2009Application1.pdf
Click here to read, download and print the rules governing the match. http://www.azcdl.org/MatchRules20090704a.pdf
This year’s match will have 4 stages.
At least half the match will be long range (100-400 yards) oriented.
Match times are as follows:
6:30 AM - Sign in begins.
7:00 AM - Shooters’ meeting starts
7:30 AM - Range goes “hot”
1:00 PM - Participants tear down the stages and clean up the range.
Prize raffle and Awards follow the range clean up.
If you have any questions, please contact the Match Director, Russell Phagan SinistralRifleman@hotmail.com
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Thigh rigs are best used if you are wearing a load bearing or armor vest that makes using a standard belt holster impractical. If you're not wearing a vest you're better off with a normal belt holster.
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I've had about 10 complete cycles of 20 through my drum before without any issues. Today at the local rifle/shotgun match, a stage called for 2 Slugs and 14 shot. I loaded the drum up with 18 shot and 2 slugs at the top.
The 2nd and 3rd rounds going into the chamber failed to feed all the way in. It appeared they weren't feeding up fast enough to keep up with the increased bolt speed using hotter ammo. At least one more shell latter in the drum malfunctioned too, guessing the added slug recoil might have shaken them up in the drum? The drum apparently is supposed to be tensioned to work with different load types (hotter vs lighter). Silly me I never tried shooting slugs through it before...oops. Shot another 20 bird shot through it after that with no issues.
Anyone else have experience using mixed loads in the Saiga drums?
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Can you still shoot your gun after holding your breath for 5 min.
Scott
Match is a month out...still time for getting on an exercise routine. Amazing how much difference 30 minutes on a bike 5 days a week makes for this match. I just got an elliptical set up instead of the bike I've been using for the past few weeks. While I'm not the picture of fitness, it certainly helps me not feel like I'm going to die in the middle of a stage.
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TJ posted on another board that safety rules will be such that all shooters have to be in the engagement area before anyone can unholster or start shooting, and that no one will ever be forward of others while they are shooting.
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Will they have divisions like:
"Are"
"Was"
"the rest of us"
That would help the rest of us...
No divisions that I am aware of. It is going to be interesting to see what types of groups show up to this thing. I think team work and commo are going to matter more than individual shooter skill.
This is definitely something new and different, still unsure what to expect....but that is half the fun ;-)
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Who all is going to this?
my team, Arizona Action Shooters, has been practicing together. This is going to be a blast.
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From 0-300 I think its the most versatile optic I've used. I use a 50 yard zero and the size of the dot to judge hold overs. My CQTs have taken some good hits and stayed zeroed...eating dirt face first on top of the rifle at the bottom of the slide at Ironman last year being one of them.
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I'm not trying to be argumentative. but how many clear ones have you sold vs black ones? Are people actually using them the same? If they consciously avoid getting oils or cleaning solvents on them, they probably will last a long time.
Plastic is what we do. I don't need to buy a specific make of magazine to know the limitations of the material it is made of. If I take one of those magazines and spray it with gun scrubber, it will crack. If I spray them with oil it might take longer. The same reasons we posted in this thread are the same reasons we don't sell the CAV-15 in clear (even though people BEG us to sell them). They won't hold up long term, and though people try to avoid it oils/cleaners tend to get on things and compromise them.
http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/24141-3/clearrifle1809.jpg
To be clear I have no issue with the Surefire Gun Mags, I do have an issue with clear magazines of any type for any gun made of polycarbonate.
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I'm going to guess cost savings on the new stamped and riveted one.
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Molds are designed to work with a particular material. If you make it to work with glass filled nylon, and then shoot polycarbonate through it yes the shrink rates will be different. Polycarbonate also doesn't release from molds as easily. This is part of the reason they quit making them.
The oils and cleaners commonly used on guns contain fluorocarbons. While it may not make the mag melt into a pile of goop instantly, it will make them prone to stress fractures over time. Every clear polycarbonate mag I have seen that has actually been used extensively has developed stress fractures on the feed lips and the area where it locks into the gun. This includes HK G36 magazines, Black Dog Machine clear mags, Ruger mini-14 mags, and yes even the clear Saiga-12 magazines.
I've been using the same black mags for almost 3 years, with 10,000+ rounds fired. The only time I have broken one was throwing the gun with mag inserted into a grounding barrel meant for tube fed shotguns on the run during a stage.
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Clear polycarbonate doesn't hold up long term for firearms applications. We told AGP they were a bad idea...they don't make them anymore. The Surfiregunmags will inevitably run into longevity problems too. Oil, solvents, carbon from shooting the gun will all degrade the integrity of the plastic over time. Get the black mags, they will last a lot longer.
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Would a retention holster be a good idea for this match?
If you have a Safariland with roto hood, it doesn't hurt and may help keep your gun in place on some of the more extreme stages. This match is not won or lost by draw times. There's been a couple times I was glad to have retention.
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All the mag wells preclude the use of drum magazines. I'd rather have a drum and not need to reload at all 90% of the time than have a reload that is 1-1.5 seconds faster when I do need to reload.
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That is two rounds on every paper. The min and max last year took into account for shooting some targets that were either SG or Pistol, both with pistol or both with SG. It is confusing.
The way I have it listed above is how 95% of the shooters are going to shoot it. This probably raises more questions than provides answers, but oh well.
Adios,
TG
So there will still be some free style choices for the shooter as to what gun they use? I really liked that aspect last year.
I don't care about the round count (I always bring way too much).
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Parallax issues, battery life, and zero shift are generally why you don't see people using them on rifles.
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Custom Coyote Tactical Vest. Shells up chest mounted is the fastest and most comfortable way to carry them that I have tried.
I have another that is more simple and only holds 3 mags. David can make you whatever you want in nylon e-mail davidbosen@yahoo.com
2009 Independence Day Rifle Match
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Posted · Edited by SinistralRifleman
btt only 20 shooters signed up. I know apps tend to flood in at the end of the month, but please get them in as soon as you can so I can plan logistically for the match.