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I wear the same excessive amount of stuff, in the same locations, all the time...and I never run out. Drop leg rigs help if you don't have enough belt circumference.
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And just for clarity...The Gun Control Act of 1968 established the "sporting purposes" language, and defined destructive devices as any gun with a bore over 1/2" except for shotguns suitable for sporting purposes. There is no list of features or criteria, the Secretary can arbitrarily declare any shotgun to be non-sporting and thus a DD.
The US Government (well the parts that regulate this stuff anyway) does not consider USPSA, IPSC, 3 Gun, etc to be a legitimate sporting purpose. All of our sports are considered to be "combat games" to them. The only way we'll ever see it considered a "sporting purpose" is if the games are incorporated into the Olympics...then maybe, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Worn out mag tube springs in Remingtons and Benellis
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I would put money on the Saiga being ruled a DD soon. Especially since there are now 20 round drums available. Essentially it is the same as the USAS 12
Shotguns can only be declared DD by manufacturer and model #. The Saiga-12 is imported in a sporting (hunting configuration)...where as those others that were declared DDs were never made in anything close to a sporting configuration. The manufacturer/importer can't be responsible for accessories that others make after the fact. Not saying it's impossible, just less likely.
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Match results from last weekend:
http://www.riopractical.com/text/rs.htm
Stages 2 and 4 are shotgun.
Stage 2 Was 18 rounds IIRC, Stage 4 12. The higher the round count the more advantage the Saiga has.
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YHMs are good
I am eager for the Magpul MOE flip up sights we saw at SHOT Show to come out. For the price, I don't think anything will be able to beat them.
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I am looking forward to that. Straight in on a closed bolt will be a lot harder to mess up, than rocking in on a closed bolt.
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I've practiced and I can't load on a closed bolt consistently. For every 3 faster reloads, I get one I just mess up badly...so I stick with what works every time.
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I stole these scoring rules from Kelly's police games match and use it for the Independence Day Action Rifle match, it levels the playing field nicely.
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Video from this weekend. I could have been a second or two faster if I hadn't gotten lazy about counting shell for when to do a reload.
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As I don't see them being allowed in Tactical any time soon, it just gives me more fuel for my goal to incorporate Trooper Class into as many matches as possible. Trooper Class, because life isn't fair!
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Doesn't the U.S. Military have a full-auto mag fed shotgun? Why can't we get a semi-auto version. Anyone know the company or if it's still made?
Nick
The AA-12 is less than ideal for our purposes. It's about twice the weight of the Saiga, has some less than ergonimic features like a channel the mags have to go into rather than a well, and the sights are much higher off the bore.
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The mixxed load stages really aren't complicated, you just have to change your brain function to think about shooting with a mag fed gun vs a tube fed.
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Hey I must be wrong and please clear me up but was'nt there something about
Semiauto 12guage+pistol grip+over 10 rounds=Levinworth or did that go out with AWB ???
?? Can you have a 20+ drum ??
Gone with the AWB.
20 round drums are in the works from a couple different places...
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my load out for ironman last year started at 140 pounds!
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I don't understand the complex rules, can I run my Saiga 12 in Trooper Class?
There are absolutely no restrictions on what you can use in Trooper Class!
Firearms1. Trooper Class shooters may use firearms from any of the other specified classes. A Trooper class shooter may use all iron-sighted guns, or open class guns, however they must be able to transport any firearms (and spares) without assistance from stage to stage by themselves.
2. There is no limit on magazine capacity, bipods, scopes, etc in Trooper Class.
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Also, are there any Molle mag pouches for 140mm S_I mags?
Tactical Tailor pouches should work...if not have Coyote Tactical Make some for you e-mail him @ davidbosen@yahoo.com
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For smaller round count matches with Trooper Class I use a Spec Ops Brand the Pack. For Ironman I use the Kifaru EMR.
I use the Cavalry Arms double long gun case with shoulder strap to carry both my guns.
The vest I use is a custom Rig by Coyote Tactical. The back piece is a modified camelback carrier, and I have multiple front panels for different weapons systems. I typically use the Saiga-12 front pannel for 3 Gun matches.
I use a SOB battle belt with Diamondback Tactical Suspenders for comfort, and duty belt keepers to tie it into my pants belt. On the belt itself I have a dump pouch large enough to accomodate all my mag types, a drop down leg rig with AR and Glock mag pouches, and I normally use a Safariland 6004 holster inside a SOB Vapor Holster Chasis.
2007 Ironman Rig:
http://www.cavalryarms.com/gear/trooper-1.JPG
http://www.cavalryarms.com/gear/trooper-2.JPG
http://www.cavalryarms.com/gear/trooper-3.JPG
http://www.cavalryarms.com/gear/trooper-4.JPG
2007 Fort Benning Rig (I wore Armor):
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The Free Market will sort all this stuff out. Matches are a product. If you don't like what a particular club/organization/MD is selling spend your money elsewhere. Or take the initiative and get something started that is to your liking. If there is a match that you've been attending and decide to stop because the rules aren't to your liking make sure they know why.
Funny, the parallels I see in this debate and various political issues I actively work on. An organization can't solve your problems, it's up to individuals to take action and effect change themselves.
I wanted a new division created at some of the matches I go to...so I made it happen
There wasn't a rifle only competition locally...so I made it happen (only once a year, but still)
anyone with the time/motivation can do the same kind of things...
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Trapr,
I'm glad you're willing to let the experiment be conducted...too bad I can't make it.
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Being one of the top dogs takes some natural talent most people don't have. They also have a significant amount of time invested in training to use the gear they have to optimum efficiency, so you're right until someone beats them they're not going to see the need to switch to a radically different platform.
So to me it's a circular argument...the guns aren't good because none of the top dogs are using them, none of the top dogs are using them because no one skilled enough to beat them is using one.
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I use the Arredondo. I took a file to the back corners, but it was easy to make work.
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Whether or not it's good enough to beat the top dogs (or there's simply a lack of anyone shooting them good enough to do so), I think the Saiga-12 is more appealing to a lot of middle of the pack shooters for Open because it's easier to become proficient with changing mags than using tec-loaders.
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The only thing I'd like to see the NRA do with Action Shooting is promote it in general...not come in and take over what other people have worked on for years.
Burris Fast Fire
in Open Pistols
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I did a search and only saw a thread from last year and no one had really been using them yet...
So who's still using them and how are they holding up? Also, what country are they manufactured in?